Square Fist Symbol in SignMaker

Stuart Thiessen sw at PASSITONSERVICES.ORG
Tue Dec 12 20:10:49 UTC 2006

Interesting. I know Philip likes drag and drop. I am a keyboardist. I 
miss the keyboarding as well. I never had a problem with learning the 
SW-DOS keyboard. Valerie had a very excellent design once you grasped 
her system. I'm looking forward to having both available in 
SignPuddle/SignText. I think it all goes back to training. If we all 
had the training, we could have used it efficiently just like we use 
the English keyboard. I suspect most of us are QWERTY typists, but 
there are people who say they can type faster with Dvorak. So, it all 
goes back to training and learning the system well. :)



On Dec 12, 2006, at 14:02, CWren at doe.k12.ga.us wrote:

> I personally like the drag and drop.  I tried to learn SW back when it 
> was SW DOS, and gave up, as I couldn't learn the keyboard and find the 
> symbols.  I also like to be able to place the symbols in relation to 
> each other in drag and drop... I don't think you could do that with a 
> keyboard system--   Granted it isn't really quick enough to be viable 
> as a writing system for me, yet, but Val can do it quickly-- as her 
> demo showed.
>  I just did my first real try at handwriting, and am quite pleased 
> with the results.  Its excellent for planning out what I will be doing 
> in a 'performance'.  (I will be signing/interpreting the Twelve Days 
> of Christmas for a program tomorrow, and wanted to be able to have a 
> cheat sheet on hand to practice with...)
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> Re: [sw-l] Square Fist Symbol in SignMaker
> Yes, please, I second that!
>  There's a lot to like about drag and drop ... but as a touch-typist 
> myself, drag-and-drop does not feel like "writing" when I want to put 
> something directly from my head into a document.
>  Hope your time in Brazil is going excellently, Charles!
>  Sounds like great things going on there.
>  -- Kim from Boston
> On 12/12/06, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I really am looking forward to the day that we are back to a typing 
> rather than a drag and drop system for Sign Writing.  Drag and drop 
> takes forever, and typing with specific sequences helps one to 
> memorize the system much better.  I know that the DOS system and 
> Windows 98 are no longer supported but they really could do a lot of 
> things well, even though they didn´t save into SignBank or IMWA.  
> Just my opinion (I have been a speed typist since I was 14) as I would 
> like to be able to duplicate that speed in sign writing, which would 
> show a distinct advantage in showing the applicability of an 
> equivalent system for reproduction as typing is to spoken language.
> Charles Butler
>  Valerie Sutton < Sutton at SignWriting.org> wrote:
> SignWriting List
>  December 12, 2006
>  On Dec 12, 2006, a question from a SignPuddle user:
>  > I tried to find just plain Square symbol but i cannot find it ...
>  > all square symbols have lines attached it ... i just want a plain
>  > square because it is fist hand...
>  Thank you for your question. You looked in the correct place. The
>  very LAST symbol, has no thumb lines attached. It is a plain
>  square...See attached diagram...

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