When are Sign Languages considered written languages?
Charles Butler
chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Fri Jan 27 12:04:58 UTC 2006
Just for comparison. You'd be hard pressed to say that Brazilian sign language is not a written language with more than a dozen Web sites devoted to it, five dictionaries, an encyclopedia, and the backing of FENEIS (the Brazilian national association of the deaf) endorsing it, and having it taught in Sao Paulo, Porto Alegre, Pelotas, and Florianopolis schools for the deaf.
Adam Frost <icemandeaf at YAHOO.COM> wrote: I totally agree with you about English. That is a very good point because people considered Enlish as a written language during the Middle Ages. It was the majority that was illiterate. So that is what it is, the majority of the deaf are illiterate in ASL. They may not be illiterate in English, but that doesn't mean the are skilled with English. ;-)
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: "Valerie Sutton"
Date: 01/26/06 07:05 PM
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Cc: albert_bickford at sil.org
Subject: Re: [sw-l] When are Sign Languages considered written languages?
SignWriting List
January 26, 2006
Dear SW List Members:
Today, a native ASL Deaf signer wrote to ask this question...Is ASL
really a written language yet?
That is an interesting question...How many people have to read and
write a language, before the language can be called a written language?
And this question was then discussed very nicely on the Sign Language
Linguists List today...smile...
Here are my thoughts on this topic...
When Sequoyah, the Cherokee Indian chief, wrote letters to his
daughter in the symbols he invented, and she understood his messages,
and they wrote back and forth...they were using a written language
that no one else in their tribe used...over time, more and more
people started using the writing system....but even when it was only
the two of them, it was still a written language...for them
only...not for others who didn't want to write.
If there are only two people writing to each other in ASL, then for
them, it is a written language...maybe others will never choose to
read and write, and maybe it will change enormously in the next
decade, or maybe no one will ever use it, or maybe it will become
widespread...I have no idea...but I do know that there are some
people writing to each other in ASL right now, and for those people,
it is a written form...
I know of hundreds in the US and I know of thousands world wide who
read and write signs daily...and so for a very few people...there is
a writing system that is working and is being used as a part of their
lives...
So when people say that ASL is not written, that is not accurate...It
may be the truth for the majority, but the minority who DO write have
a right to be acknowledged too...
So for me, a language can be a written language, even when only a few
are reading and writing it...English was only written by the educated
elite for centuries...Everyday people, in the Middle Ages, did not
know how to write. But English was a written language in the Middle
Ages, nonetheless, even though only a small group knew how to read
and write...
My thoughts for today...smile...and I would love your feedback!
Val ;-)
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