I need an arrow

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Wed Jun 21 18:50:13 UTC 2006

Stuart wrote:
> Anyway, I wanted to suggest this alternative in the spelling like in
> the attached image. This keeps the handshapes apart. With the ending
> position, I don't know if we need athe twist on the arrow since the
> change in handshape already indicates that. Also, I think the surface
> symbol is useful here to show both hands, but you still know they are
> on top of each other. Finally, I sense more of a ending rub than an
> ending touch, so I replaced the touch with a rub.  What do you  
> think? I
> thought this might help to keep the emphasis of the individual  
> within a
> group that the sign is clearly emphasizing.

On Jun 21, 2006, at 11:39 AM, CWren at doe.k12.ga.us wrote:
> As to the surface symbol--  I asked about that one a long time ago,  
> in regards to the sign "English," which I couldn't make sense of in  
> something I was reading, because the handshapes were on top of each  
> other.  At that time, I was told that the surface symbol was pretty  
> much used only in research, not in everyday writing.  So I have  
> avoided it ever since.  You are confusing me now...  ::holds head  
> and whines::

Very interesting discussion. Glad the List is posting again!

Regarding the Surface Symbol...you are both right!

It adds a lot of good detailed information. But it is also advanced  
and was definitely considered for research for a long time. We  
memorized the way the sign for English was spelled, without the  
Surface Symbol, and we read that sign just fine. But I can see why it  
is hard to read too...

So when I read your sign for MAINSTEAM, Cherie, I didn't even realize  
that the under hand was an index finger extended...I read it as a  
fist because I could not see the index finger...

So I do not know if the Surface Symbols should be used for everday  
use or not...I think if we can find other ways to show it visually  
then that is better, but Stuart's writing is accurate! So I guess we  
should relax about the Surface Symbol...if you feel it is needed  
sometimes, go ahead and use it!


so let's place both ways in SignPuddle for now...

Val ;-)

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