sign puddle help

[Adam Frost]

Oh! I see what it is that you are asking. You want to know how to use  
the Symbol Search. Ok. I will teach you how to use that with the  
example of football in the next message.

Adam

On Jun 10, 2008, at 9:25 PM, Brian McQueen wrote:

> I was too specific in my email. I was trying to give an example of a
> generic problem I have been experiencing - the problem being trying to
> look up the English word for a sign, not anything about The Cat in the
> Hat.  In general I have a very hard time getting a successful search
> result.  I'll find a different example.  The sign for football is in
> there:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/P7s7CYKWRi
>
> It shows the sign to be:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/deWrGr6NeDG
>
> But I had a very hard time doing a symbol search for the sign.
>
> Here is a sample search to demonstrate doing a rotate match on the  
> hands:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/L5m6YRhH
>
> No results for that one:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/Xc0pQ3z7
>
> This example shows that it is quite hard to actually get a hit on a  
> search.
>
> Or a user might know it the sign contains this one hand in some
> orientation, but they don't know how to write the rest, so they search
> for the one thing they do know - that one hand shape with the
> uncertain rotation:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/3psUSYtCCQx
>
> In their result set they would expect to find their sign somewhere:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/ls1qEChtp
>
> Its a massive result set, and I don't see football in there, so I
> guess a normal user would try to constrain the query a bit:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/VMe6VITUZX
>
> I get no results for this constrained query:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/KKolpqlma
>
> I don't want to be discouraging.  I am asking because I am so
> impressed and interested in this.  I want to both use it myself, as
> well as get other folks to use it too.  Did I make some mistake in
> that "football" search?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brian McQueen
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Adam Frost <frost at signwriting.org>  
> wrote:
>> Hello Brian,
>>
>> I will be more that willing to help you. It seems to me that you  
>> would like
>> to be able to have an ASL sign to English word correlation in  
>> SignPuddle.
>> More specifically you are looking for that relation in a document  
>> written
>> in SignText. It is possible to have that in SignText, but none of  
>> that
>> information was written for any of the Cat in the Hat pages. So  
>> there are no
>> English word correlations stored in SignPuddle for any of the Cat  
>> in the Hat
>> pages.
>>
>> You also mentioned that you tried to do a Search by Symbols, but  
>> were given
>> a return of no results even when the symbols are in the documents  
>> of The Cat
>> in the Hat. This is because the searches are searching for the  
>> symbols in
>> the titles of the document. In all of the Cat in the Hat pages the  
>> only
>> title is written in English with words like "Cat in the Hat 01."
>>
>> I am sorry that they information that you seems to be looking for  
>> isn't even
>> there because I didn't put it in there when I did the editing. If  
>> you would
>> like to have the information, you can just ask me what the English
>> correlation the the ASL sign is and I will tell you. ;-)
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Brian McQueen wrote:
>>
>>> Can you please help me get more out of Sign Puddle?  I can't seem to
>>> find anything most of the time.  The Sign Puddle is so important!
>>> Going from a sign to the English word is the most important missing
>>> piece of Sign Language documentation in my opinion.  Here is an
>>> example.  I am taking a word from The Cat in the Hat:
>>>
>>> http://screencast.com/t/scGSIxWn
>>>
>>> Here is the Rotate Match:
>>>
>>> http://screencast.com/t/NyfU9M2g
>>>
>>> Clicking Search gives:
>>>
>>> http://screencast.com/t/PJGhs2DDndD
>>>
>>> For some reason the signs in that post-search summary are not the  
>>> same
>>> as the ones I entered:
>>>
>>> But mostly I need to be able to look up the words!  I have a very  
>>> low
>>> success rate and this kind of search is exactly what I need, so I  
>>> need
>>> to have a higher success rate.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
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