AW: Manchester

Wed May 20 12:04:15 UTC 2009

Hello everyone,
My apologies for not introducing myself earlier...
My name is Alison and I'm originally from Manchester, UK.
I studied Deaf Studies (BSL/English Interpreting) at Bristol Uni and am now
in Malta studying Linguistics where I have had the pleasure of being in
Maria's SignWriting classes.
It is great to read about the development of SignWriting and how it is
gaining popularity across the world.
I look forward to learning more about SignWriting through the list!
Suzanne - do you have anymore info about the proposed project in Manchester
please?
Best wishes,
Alison :o)
2009/5/20 MARIA AZZOPARDI <maria.azzopardi at um.edu.mt>

> Hi all,
>
> Alison, could you introduce yourself please? ...  ;)
> You could very well be the start of full-fledged signwriting in the UK.
>
> Maria
>
> > SignWriting List
> > May 19, 2009
> >
> > Hello Everyone in the UK, and Stefan!
> >
> > Thank you for this discussion...
> >
> > I hope you all will start adding these signs to your British Sign
> > Language Puddles...
> >
> > BSL SignPuddles
> > http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/index4.html#sgn-GB
> >
> > I see the sign for Manchester has been added to the BSL
> > dictionary...smile...
> >
> > Val ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 19, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Suzanne pach <
> Suzanne at bordvoorjekop.nl
> >> > wrote:
> >> I would go for variation A, but I only just gained my BSL
> >> level 1 certification, so I might not be the best person
> >> to ask.. :)
> >>
> >> My SW skills are very very very rusty these days but I'm not sure
> >> that the SW variants are correct. The .M. has the non-dominant hand
> >> (effectively) parallel to the floor. But the .C. is (effectivley)
> >> parallel to the wall.So SW variants B and C would be incorrect.
> >> There is no semantic difference, in this name sign, between the use
> >> of single .C. and the full .C. so the pictures for SW Variants A and
> >> C are both okay.
> >>
> >> PS Well done Suzanne on getting BSL Level 1. I'm studying for Level
> >> 3 at the moment.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good Luck!
> >>
> >> Suzanne
> >>
> >> PS Talking about Manchester makes me think of the
> >> SW-project that maybe was going to take place around
> >> Manchester, but that couldn't get started yet because of
> >> the (lack of) funding. Have there been any new
> >> developments lately?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi Stefan,
> >> > The non-dominant hand in M is parallel to the floor and
> >> > the C hand in the
> >> > sign MANCHESTER is a full hand.
> >> > I think that would be the M from 'Variation A' and the C
> >> > from 'Variation C'
> >> > ??
> >> > Although as you can see the examples you have found
> >> > online, the hanshape of
> >> > the dominanthand (left hand) varies.
> >> > The citation form would look like I have described above
> >> > but this changes
> >> > when found in a phrase.
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Alison
> >> >
> >> > 2009/5/18 Stefan Wï¿½hrmann <stefanwoehrmann at googlemail.com>
> >> >
> >> >>  Hi Alison, Trevor ...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> this is terriffic
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you soo much for your quick answer.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Well now ï¿½ signwriters are the sharp-eye signers ï¿½ smile
> >> >> . I looked up
> >> >> various sources and there are quite obvious differences
> >> >> in the performance
> >> >> of the two ï¿½lettersï¿½  It is not easy to express all
>  >> >> information for the
> >> >> parameters in a drawing ...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you give your feedback once more?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Stefan ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Variation A:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.deafsign.com/ds/fingerspell/fs_b2h_trans.cfm
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Variation B:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.aspexdesign.co.uk/bsl.htm
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Both hands parallel to the floor
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Variation C:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.deafblind.com/deafsign.html
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Both hands parallel to the wall
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> So can you tell me
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> *Von:* alisonvere at gmail.com
> >> >> [mailto:alisonvere at gmail.com]
> >> >> *Gesendet:* Montag, 18. Mai 2009 16:43
> >> >> *An:* stefanwoehrmann at googlemail.com
> >> >> *Betreff:* SW: Manchester
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear Stefan,
> >> >>
> >> >> I am very new to the idea of signwriting and am still
> >> >> learning the basics.
> >> >>
> >> >> The sign for Manchester used in Manchester by Deaf
> >> >> people is M-C from the
> >> >> BSL 2-handed fingerspelling alphabet produced in neutral
> >> >> space.
> >> >>
> >> >> Here is my attempt at signwriting it...
> >> >>
> >> >> Best wishes,
> >> >>
> >> >> Alison
> >> >>  ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Load message into
> >> >> SignText<
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/signtext/signtext.html?list=01-05-012-01-04-08,95,163,01-06-005-01-06-02,119,171,02-01-001-01-01-01,105,170,01-05-029-02-02-01,155,153,,0%0d%0a%0D%0A
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Courtesy of SignBank.org <http://www.signbank.org/>
> >> >>
> >> >> 442c1d694addc2db5402c2aea534f2a2 =
> >> >> 442c1d694addc2db5402c2aea534f2a2
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> > Alison Vere
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> >> <>< Re: deemed!
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