embedding ASL in pdf/html

Alan Post alanpost at SUNFLOWERRIVER.ORG
Wed Mar 24 13:22:42 UTC 2010


I've created a new draft of my page on use of sign language in "lo
do ckiku ma zvati:"

  http://test.lodockikumazvati.org/xanbau/

The original page is still online at:

  http://lodockikumazvati.org/xanbau/

You can therefor compare the new and old versions of the page.

Ingvild, Cherie, and anyone else interested, would you review the
incorporation of the below given feedback?  I'll publish the changes
to the production website if everything looks ok.

I'll push this update out tonight if I don't hear any feedback on
the new version of the page.  I hope it has covered every point made
below.

-Alan

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:26:02AM +0100, Ingvild Roald wrote:
>    My feeling too - it is dangerous ground. But if it made clear that:
> 
>    1) ASL and other sign languages are real languages, used by real people
>    2) as real languages, they have their own grammar
>    3) that what is used in your game is individual signs borrowed from ASL,
>    and not the real ASL language
>    4) that learning the signs of ASL is not learning ASL
>    5) that knowing ASL signs may ease communication with ASL signers, if you
>    are aware of the limitations mentioned above.
> 
>    If this is not made very clear in the use of the signs, I fully understand
>    how this make give a feeling of being 'raped' . Deaf people have been
>    through so many hard times trying to make other understand, that they are
>    often quite a bit sensitive to this issue. At the same time, when showing
>    with humilty and respect, a person who uses signs haltingly is usually
>    made to feel welcome in a signing setting. At least, this is my experience
> 
>    Ingvild (Norway, non-Deaf)
> 
>    > From: icemandeaf at gmail.com
>    > To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>    > Subject: Re: [sw-l] embedding ASL in pdf/html
>    > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:32:19 -0700
>    >
>    > That's exactly what he meant. It is something that has to be treaded
>    > carefully because it has happened too many times where that exact fear
>    > has happened. That is why so many Deaf people are so protective.
>    >
>    > Adam
>    >
>    > On Mar 23, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>    >
>    > > So I am trying to imagine what the Deaf person meant by saying that
>    > > to you...I would assume there is a possible fear, that hearing
>    > > people will use Deaf people's native language, ASL, which is a true
>    > > language, just for games, and not understand its importance in
>    > > society .... do you think that was what he meant?
>    > >
>    > > Adam?
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >
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