embedding ASL in pdf/html

[Ingvild Roald]

To me, this seems very much better. But it would bee good to have Deaf (native signer's) response to the issue.

Ingvild 




> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:22:42 -0600
> From: alanpost at sunflowerriver.org
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] embedding ASL in pdf/html
> 
> I've created a new draft of my page on use of sign language in "lo
> do ckiku ma zvati:"
> 
>   http://test.lodockikumazvati.org/xanbau/
> 
> The original page is still online at:
> 
>   http://lodockikumazvati.org/xanbau/
> 
> You can therefor compare the new and old versions of the page.
> 
> Ingvild, Cherie, and anyone else interested, would you review the
> incorporation of the below given feedback?  I'll publish the changes
> to the production website if everything looks ok.
> 
> I'll push this update out tonight if I don't hear any feedback on
> the new version of the page.  I hope it has covered every point made
> below.
> 
> -Alan
> 
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:26:02AM +0100, Ingvild Roald wrote:
> >    My feeling too - it is dangerous ground. But if it made clear that:
> > 
> >    1) ASL and other sign languages are real languages, used by real people
> >    2) as real languages, they have their own grammar
> >    3) that what is used in your game is individual signs borrowed from ASL,
> >    and not the real ASL language
> >    4) that learning the signs of ASL is not learning ASL
> >    5) that knowing ASL signs may ease communication with ASL signers, if you
> >    are aware of the limitations mentioned above.
> > 
> >    If this is not made very clear in the use of the signs, I fully understand
> >    how this make give a feeling of being 'raped' . Deaf people have been
> >    through so many hard times trying to make other understand, that they are
> >    often quite a bit sensitive to this issue. At the same time, when showing
> >    with humilty and respect, a person who uses signs haltingly is usually
> >    made to feel welcome in a signing setting. At least, this is my experience
> > 
> >    Ingvild (Norway, non-Deaf)
> > 
> >    > From: icemandeaf at gmail.com
> >    > To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >    > Subject: Re: [sw-l] embedding ASL in pdf/html
> >    > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:32:19 -0700
> >    >
> >    > That's exactly what he meant. It is something that has to be treaded
> >    > carefully because it has happened too many times where that exact fear
> >    > has happened. That is why so many Deaf people are so protective.
> >    >
> >    > Adam
> >    >
> >    > On Mar 23, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> >    >
> >    > > So I am trying to imagine what the Deaf person meant by saying that
> >    > > to you...I would assume there is a possible fear, that hearing
> >    > > people will use Deaf people's native language, ASL, which is a true
> >    > > language, just for games, and not understand its importance in
> >    > > society .... do you think that was what he meant?
> >    > >
> >    > > Adam?
> >    >
> >    >
> >    >
> >    >
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