Last questions: Is there a SpeechWriting symbol puddle? Where? What are the languages that have been written down in SpeechWriting? Can we have access to the SpeechWriting symbols used?

[fernando capovilla]

Hello Valerie,
Sorry for writing so much. I just want to know how much work has been put
into SpeechWriting so far. I mean: I am trying to adapt it to Portuguese,
and I realize I need a large amount of additional SpeechWriting symbols
before I can go on. I would like to know where can I find them. Even if
there is still no IPA indexed SpeechWriting symbol databank ou puddle, in
case SpeechWriting has been already used to write down different languages,
I may adapt and make good progress. In the meantime, I am trying to learn as
much as I can with the little there is available so far.

In this page:

http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de/read/Mundbilder/uebersicht_mundbilder.htm#ÜbersichtMundbilder

we find a large difference in SpeechWriting symbols of U between:

Uhr, die
and

Uhu, der
There is an IPA difference, certaily, that might be mapped easily using this
table of IPA to German:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_German


But I am not familiar with the pronunciation. That is why a table
IPA-Viseme-Grapheme-SpeechWriting is so important.
I have come to a halt in a stalemate. I need to find an online German
dictionary with IPA transcription before I can go on. I'll look for that.

Benjamin Franklin in 1779 was the first one to feel the need for the IPA and
the first one to devise a system for doing that. In 1886 the linguist and
phonetician Paul Eduoard Passy embraced the cause and completed the IPA.
In 2011, once more, we come to realize those fine men had very good reasons
for doing what they did. (grin) We do need IPA as an anchor to begin working
on SpeechWriting, that is if SpeechWriting is to develop in the immediate
future. If we are to embrace this cause we would need cooperationin that
regard. So, my last question before I postpone indefinitely working on that
is: Is there a broader, more complete and comprehensive set of SpeechWriting
Symbols, in addition to those in:
http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de/read/Mundbilder/uebersicht_mundbilder.htm#ÜbersichtMundbilder
or all those all there is available? That is: Have there been efforts
in SpeechWriting idioms other than just German?
If those efforts have already occurred, then there must be a datank of
SpeechWriting symbols that may be used to write down different spoken
idioms, such as Portuguese.
So my 4 last questions are:
1) Is there a datank of SpeechWriting symbols developed to be used to write
down different spoken languages other than German?
2) In case there is, where could we find it?
3) What are the languages that have been written down in SpeechWriting?
4) Where can we find the SpeechWriting symbols they used to write down those
languages?
In case such a puddle does not exist yet, in case no language other than
German has been written down with  SpeechWriting symbols yet, then it would
become clear that the IPA-indexed SpeechWriting symbol development
enterprise would be the way to follow. But in that case, there would be a
long, long road ahead of us.
Thank you very much.
Fernando






2011/2/12 fernando capovilla <fcapovilla3 at gmail.com>

>
> Dear Valerie,
> I tried to go through the pages you ent me but unfortunately the link
> appears to be broken:
>
> I clicked in:
> http://www.signwriting.org/germany/
>
>  But could not have access to the much desired page:
> *9*
> *Mundbildschrift*<http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0124-DE-Mundbildschrift.pdf>
> *Write German Speech*
> **
>
> I could not have access to:
> archive docs2 sw0124 Mundbild Schrift site:www.signwriting.org
>
> All the other links to all the other pages you mentioned are ok. But the
> one I really needed (SpeechWriting) is off the air right now.  In the
> meantime I will keep on working in adapting SpeechWriting to Portuguese.
> Do you think people for the linguistic forum might be interested in working
> on that quest for an IPA-indexed table of correspondences among units of:
> IPA, Visemes (pics), SpeechWriting, Graphemes?
> Again, thank you so very much.
> Fernando
>
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