signwriting (swml file problem)

Jonathan Duncan duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA
Wed May 8 02:01:14 UTC 2013

Hi Asmaa Shaban,
     I am Jonathan Duncan the author of SignWriter Studio.  I have code 
that imports and exports to and from FSW and creates PNG of signs.  I 
don't currently have any for FSW to SVG document in SignWriter Studio, 
that's my next little project.  SignWriter Studio is written in VB.Net 
which can converted be to C# or the DLL can also be decompiled to C# 
with  a utility like ".Net Reflector" or "Jet Brains dotPeek".   I would 
be happy to share some code to get you started once I a get a clearer 
idea of what you need.

Tell me a bit more about the project you are working on. So far I 
understand that you want to do it in C#, and if I remember correctly is 
this a web application so I would be assuming ASP.Net. Or is it a 
desktop application?  You want to type in Arabic Text and get Arabic 
sign language.  Much like the what Signpuddle can do here.
type in ???? ???? ?????

and get the signs that correspond to the words?  Is this what you want 
to program?
By the way I don't know what those words are I just copied and pasted 
them from the dictionary as an example.

Also what programming languages are you familiar with?  How long have 
you been programming, what type of programs have you written in the past?

If you understand CoffeeScript or Javascript the SignWriterLayoutEngline 
could give you another example of how to parse an FSW string and how to 
position the SVG symbols.

The only logic that won't work for you there might be the IndexedDB 
which you could swap out for the SQLite versions of the Refactored font.


On 5/6/2013 6:41 PM, Asmaa Shaban wrote:
> That is fine  Dr Stephen , But i do not know more about PHP . So, 
> there is no another  way ??
> or another programming language as C# for example  ??
> If it is not available can i use PNG ?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Stephen E Slevinski Jr <slevin at SIGNPUDDLE.NET>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 6, 2013 9:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: signwriting (swml file problem)
> On 5/6/13 2:36 PM, Asmaa Shaban wrote:
>> Greeting Dr Stephen and All :
>> From my understanding around the project :
>> 1- the SVG is used to draw signs as for example (fig2)
> This is correct.  We are using SVG primarily until the TrueType Font 
> is perfected.
>> 2-  I should  do the FSW for each sign and also define its word in 
>> arabic as for example  (fig 1) where the user  when enter the FSW or 
>> the word in arabic , the sign is returned .
> The FSW is the mathematical name of the sign.  The SVG image is 
> created from the FSW.
>> 3- But here i do not understand  how to link among the SVG file 
>> (fig2) and the dictionary file (fig 1) .
>> thanks in advance
> The SVG file is created from the FSW.  The open source project the 
> "SignWriting Icon Server" is able to create the SVG from the FSW.
> I just published the first release candidate for the SignWriting Icon 
> Server.  You can grab the source from Github and install your own, or 
> you can use one of the several existing SignWriting Icon Servers 
> available online.  I would suggest the Wikimedia Labs based server.
> Github source:
> Wikimedai Labs server:
> SignBank Server:
> Specifically, the "glyphogram.php" script is used to create the SVG.
> You can call this script directly or learn to use the SignWriting Thin 
> Viewer for website in general.
> Regards,
> -Steve


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