Help with mouth and teeth symbols and SpeechWriting

Mon Mar 31 18:40:31 UTC 2014

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On 3/31/2014 10:52 AM, André L wrote:
> Thanks,
> I am merging the 2 lists of Stefan,
> The new list will contain photos and example of words.
> The photos are a great Rosetta Stone to build on.
>
> The table is so complete that is seems it may encompass French and 
> other languages.
>
> To officialise the symbols of Stefan, we could simply add them in 
> SignPuddle or create an import file for SignWriter Studio. Then they 
> could be copied and paste, added in "Favorite" tab...
Yes they could definitely be saved as smpl file to be imported to other 
language dictionaries if anyone wants to.  But I think that the most 
effective would be to add them to "Favorite " tab that way they can be 
easily added to other signs.  Each favorite can have several SignWriting 
symbols and it also maintains their position in the Sign Box.  Once 
added they can be dragged anywhere.  It might be practical for each of 
them to be in the same initial spot, so it would be easy to just move 
them over after they have been added if need be.  I could make a special 
file containing these or even add it to the default favorites.  People 
who don't want them could delete them from their favorites.

So see an expample of a constructed symbol. Click on the index baby bent 
favorites.

Jonathan
>
>
>  André Lemyre
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 09:39:08 -0700
> From: signwriting at MAC.COM
> Subject: Re: Help with mouth and teeth symbols and SpeechWriting
> To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
>
> SignWriting List
> March 31, 2014
>
> Hello André and Stefan -
>
> Many thanks to you both for all you are doing...
>
> A side note:  Stefan - there is no rush on anything - we all know how 
> busy you are and take your time on everything - your health is more 
> important than anything - I don’t believe in stress ;-))
>
> To answer your question, André (the best I can) -
>
> Of course, Stefan is the official developer of Woehrmann’s 
> SpeechWriting and whatever he deems “official” is what matters, since 
> without Stefan, SpeechWriting would not exist…So I respect what Stefan 
> chooses…
>
> As far as incorporating some of the new symbols used in SpeechWriting, 
> into the list of SignWriting symbols in a future version of the 
> ISWA…for writing sign language mouth movements…I do not know if that 
> is necessary or not…but again Stefan and other signwriters need to 
> tell us if that is needed...
>
> The ISWA 2010 is a standard symbol set that is built into modern 
> software and any additional symbols (and there will always be more 
> symbols people will want added) could possibly be added into the 
> software with special programming, like a symbol addendum, but we do 
> not plan to do a new version of the ISWA itself until 2020…or maybe 
> never… The ISWA 2010 seems to be working well…because people can 
> construct other symbols if they need them -
>
> Meanwhile Stefan is writing with SpeechWriting using current software, 
> so I am assuming the extra symbols can be constructed with little 
> lines etc inside SignPuddle and Delegs software…I think that is 
> wonderful and brilliant - thank you, Stefan!
>
> So to answer your question - The SpeechWriting symbols used as Stefan 
> will show us, are official for SpeechWriting. SignWriting for writing 
> sign language mouth movements does not list the extra symbols at this 
> time, but they could be used if people want to construct them -
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ----------
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2014, at 9:07 AM, André L <andre-andre at hotmail.ca 
> <mailto:andre-andre at hotmail.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Wow,
>     this is great, the second link is very complete.
>     This will keep me busy for the week.
>     Thanks
>
>     PS: how do we proceed with extras added symbols which Stefan
>     developed ?
>     Are they considered as official?
>
>     André Lemyre
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 22:30:17 -0700
>     From:signwriting at MAC.COM <mailto:signwriting at MAC.COM>
>     Subject: Re: Help with mouth and teeth symbols and SpeechWriting
>     To:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
>     <mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU>
>
>     SignWriting List
>     March 30, 2014
>
>     Hello André!
>     Of course, Stefan Woehrmann is the developer of SpeechWriting so
>     he is the one to talk to about this, but here are some links:
>
>     http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de/read/Mundbilder/mundbild_lesen_lernen001.htm
>
>     http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de/read/Mundbilder/uebersicht_mundbilder.htm#%C3%9Cbersicht%20Mundbilder
>     <http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de/read/Mundbilder/uebersicht_mundbilder.htm#%c3%9cbersicht%20Mundbilder>
>
>     As you know, it is called Mundbildschrift in German -
>
>     Stefan used the Mouth symbols in SignWriting to create a
>     standardized way of writing the way speech looks on the mouth - so
>     when you memorize the symbols and what they represent, people can
>     mouth the words -
>
>     So the above web pages list the standard way of writing each sound
>     on the mouth - using the SignWriting mouth symbols plus a few
>     extras added symbols which Stefan developed -
>
>     Feel free to correct me, Stefan…we really need you to explain this
>     well -
>
>     Val ;-)
>
>     --------
>
>
>     On Mar 30, 2014, at 7:32 PM, André L <andre-andre at HOTMAIL.CA
>     <mailto:andre-andre at HOTMAIL.CA>> wrote:
>
>         Hello,
>         I need information about how to represent the visible aspect
>         of speech. Which are the SignWriting symbols that should be
>         used to represent what a deaf person can read on lips.
>
>         I need to develop a correspondance that would integrate
>         SpeechWriting in SignWriting animations.
>
>         I know there are many symbols but their respective purpose is
>         unclear to me.
>
>         If anyone has any information on this matter, even if it is
>         incomplete or in a draft form, it would help me greatly.
>
>         Thanks
>
>         André Lemyre
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