[Sw-l] [SPAM] Forearm Rotation or axial motion symbols

Charles Butler 00000009c7c21417-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Sat Feb 3 17:06:52 UTC 2018

Thanks for the screen shot. I do find the discussion most interesting as rotations are always a challenge to discuss. The axis of motion helps one understand. Is it up and down (double) or in and out (single). Thanks. There is often debate as to what one is drawing, the pinky or the thumb, and for me, that is almost an internal thought process of what do I feel is easier to read in writing-both are happening.  Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. 

    On Friday, February 2, 2018 10:12 AM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at MAC.COM> wrote:

 SignWriting ListFebruary 2, 2018
Thank you, Rachel and Charles, for your messages. I will answer you shortly, Rachel.
Charles, here attached is a screen capture that is a .png format. I hope you can see the graphics this way?:

Val ;-)

On Feb 2, 2018, at 5:39 AM, Charles Butler <00000009c7c21417-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU> wrote:
I am unable to read any of Ms. Channon's symbols in her email on yahoo. Do they open better in gmail.com.  Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward.

On Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:13 PM, "rchannon1 at VERIZON.NET" <rchannon1 at VERIZON.NET> wrote:

Hello Everyone, I have a new question – this time about rotation symbols.  In the lessons in signwriting book (maybe I should say bible 😊)  forearm rotation is discussed starting on page 142.  I am just having a hard time understanding how the symbols match with the actions.  The problem is that I don’t understand what the arrows mean in the rotation symbols.  I see that for example if the forearm points up, that is the wall plane and it is a double line.  But if the arrow shows a movement to the right, what does that mean?  Because technically the arm stays in one place and doesn’t move?This is the set of signs that I am trying to understand:  (S2df) 
| 񋎡 | 񋎢 | 񋎣 | 񋎤 | 񋎥 | 񋎦 | 񋎧 | 񋎨 | 񋎩 | 񋎪 | 񋎫 | 񋎬 | 񋎭 | 񋎮 | 񋎯 | 񋎰 |

 If I am describing these symbols can I say something like the following:  (in all these symbols I understand we are talking about the right arm and it is in an upright position, pointing to the ceiling)In the first symbol, the thumb moves from right to left and the palm first faces the signer and then faces the viewerIn the second symbol, the thumb moves left and down???In the third symbol, the thumb moves in a curve from left to right so that the hand is first palm out to viewer and then palm in to signer?The fourth symbol looks almot like the thirdIn the fifth symbol, the thumb moves left to right and the palm of the hand is first facing the viewer and ends facing the signer? I am really confused….. Rachel

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