[Sw-l] Timing Symbols

[Adam Frost]

Ok. This is good to know. ;-)

Now for a little background before I explain my conundrum. (Ha!)

When I write by hand, I generally shorten it by only writing the right hand’s movement and then using these timing symbols — first 3 actually — to explain what the left hand is doing. For the most part, this has worked fine for me. Then I tried to write a few different verb agreements for “repetitively sending”.

There is a version of the verb “to send" that uses the alternating movement of both hands which can be used to explain the actions of a professional mover placing various furnitures into a moving van. For this, I used the “every other time” symbol.



When I read my writing, I wasn’t sure if it was the above described sign, or another version of this “to send” verb that means to sort various objects into two different locations.



I wrote the full version with the left hands for both. Notice that removing the left handshapes and movements would make these both written the same.

This lead me to wonder what the writing would look like if the movement wasn’t alternating or “every other time”. Both are possible versions with this verb.

This writing would mean to repeatedly put objects into the same location.



And this writing would mean the same as above but into two different locations.



So I guess those would be clear if I were to only write the right hand with the timing symbols. I’m not sure how I would make the first two clear while only writing the right hand and the timing symbols.


Adam

> On Aug 14, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:
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> August 14, 2019
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> Hello Adam and SW List members -
> 
> Thank you for this question. Yes, the definitions you list are the more recent definitions which I believe are clear. It is confirmed that they are correct.
> 
> Years ago, I called them "Movement Dynamics" in the Lessons in SignWriting Textbook, on page 183. Attached is a screen capture of that page from the book, plus the sign for FEW in ASL that is an example of the Gradual Movement Symbol, which is like two miniature SLOW and SMOOTH symbols placed between two positions, to mean "gradually moving into the next position". The Gradual symbol is always small between two positions.
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> <FEW in ASL.png>
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> <Movement_Dynamics_Lessons_p183.png>
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> 
>> On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM <mailto:icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
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>> I just wanted to confirm the definitions of these four symbols. (I have added the image below for reference just in case people can’t read the font.)
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>> <Image 8-14-19 at 8.29 AM.jpg>
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>> 1. 񋸡 The ISWA 2010 Reference calls this “Same Time”. This means that both hands travel along their path simultaneously.
>> 2. 񋺁 The ISWA 2010 Reference calls this “Same Time Alternating”. This means that both hands travel along their path simultaneously in opposite directions.
>> 3. 񋻡 The ISWA 2010 Reference calls this “Every Other Time”. This means that both hands travel along their path while the other hand isn’t moving. There is no distinction to moving in the “opposite direction” like the previous symbol.
>> 4. 񋽁 The ISWA 2010 Reference calls this “Gradual”. This means that the change from one handshape to the next has a flowing change rather than an immediate change.
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>> Adam
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