[Sw-l] [SPAM] Re: [SW-L] FSW, SWU, PNG, OCR, OGR

Valerie Sutton 0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Sat Nov 27 16:49:03 UTC 2021

SignWriting List
November 27, 2021

Hi Jonathan -
Thank you for this information about programming with FSW. Glad it works so well.

And many thanks to Steve Slevinski, for providing us with multiple formats…

And the issue of Handwriting recognition is also very interesting - Look forward to learning more about OCR and OGR too -

Thanks everyone!

Val ;-)


> On Nov 27, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Jonathan Duncan <00000002a18e4451-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU> wrote:
> Hi Val,
>     A comment about FSW vs SWU.  I found in my programming that FSW is way easier to work within a program, then it's easy to convert to or from SWU when needed to share with other programs if necessary.
> Jonathan

> On Nov 27, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Valerie Sutton <0000001342802f5f-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU> wrote:
> SignWriting List
> November 27, 2021
> Hello Jonathan, Amit and everyone -
> There was a presentation in the SignWriting Symposium 2014, on a new idea called “OGR”:
> Presentation 33 by Fabrizio Borgia and Maria De Marsico
> https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0033.html
> ______________
>> On Nov 27, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Jonathan Duncan <00000002a18e4451-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU> wrote:
>> Hi Amit,
>>     That great that you have developed and OCR tool for Signwriting images to FSW.  Have you tried it at all with hand writing?  There was a project a few years back that they had managed to recognize various symbols but I don't believe it was ever finished .  OCR recognition would be another fast way to input signs if it could work properly.  Do you have an easy way for feeding the OCR training data?
>> Jonathan
> _________
>> On 11/27/2021 9:47 AM, Amit Moryossef wrote:
>>> Happy holidays :)
>>> I have work that uses FSW or SWU, it’s very easy to convert thanks to Steve.
>>> The data in Sign2MINT is PNG, but I have developed an OCR tool today to convert PNG back to FSW so I can use their data.
>>> I have a feeling (and some inside knowledge I’ll share at a later time) that you are right about 2022 😊
> __________
>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 4:03 AM, Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> Hello dear Amit,
>> I am glad that you came across our website and would like to use the data elsewhere. 
>> I know your project. 
>> You are right, it is much better to work with Unicode instead of SymbolIds. There are many reasons for that, yes.
>> And that's why our goal is also to move to Unicode (SWU). I can't say when that will be, but we plan to start shortly. 
>> I will write here when the conversion is done and 
>> sign2mint.de
>>  contains SWU. 
>> Kind regards
>> Uta
>> ________
>> Amit Moryossef <amitmoryossef at gmail.com> schrieb am Mi., 24. Nov. 2021, 11:02:
>> Welcome, Uta!
>> It's great to see the sign2mint project expanding :)
>> Back in July, I wrote a dataset loader for sign2mint.
>> Unfortunately, one thing I noticed, is that the way you store(/show) SignWriting on your website is in image form, including symbol IDs, but not actually including SignWriting in FSW or SWU forms.
>> I think including SignWriting in those formats will make it more usable (copy/paste functionality, search, etc)
>> For now, I am referencing your Gebärdenschrift as images, but hoping you will add textual forms in the future.
>> Amit
> ________________________________________________



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