[Sw-l] Rub contact

Fri Apr 8 17:24:13 UTC 2022

Hi Honza,

It's the same in ASL -- if a sign goes in the other direction it just looks
weird.

I'm still thinking of other ASL signs that go clockwise, and I haven't come
up with any. As soon as I find one, I'll let you know!

For new students of sign language, it would be helpful to have an
additional arrow -- at least for reference purposes -- which can be like a
"training wheel" until they get in the habit of doing the rub in the
correct direction.

Cheers,
AnnaGrace

On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:18 PM Honza Fikejs <honza.fikejs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Thank you for your responses.
> In Czech Sign Language rub is signed anti clockwise typically on the hand
> and clockwise on the body and head. The direction of the movement doesn't
> change the meaning, but it is weird only to sign it in the wrong direction.
> I like my origin idea to have two kinds of symbols (clockwise and anti
> clockwise written). But maybe an additional arrow is clearer.
>
> Does anyone know some signs that differ only in the direction of rubbing?
>
> Honza
> PS: Val, thank you. I get all the responses now.
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 14:59, Cherie Wren <
> 000000111c1a7803-dmarc-request at listserv.valenciacollege.edu> wrote:
>
>> When I sign COFFEE, I too, circle counter clockwise, but I can read the
>> writing because I know the sign.  For the original poster, who mentioned
>> that some signs changing the direction of the rub changes the meaning,
>> could you use movement arrows to specify?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 8, 2022, 07:02:24 AM EDT, Wallyson Ruan <
>> wallysonruan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> 'Morning!
>>
>> As a LIBRAS signer, I tend to do the rubbing in a counter-clockwise
>> direction.
>>
>> As Ms. Anna Grace, I never thought much of the symbols direction, but,
>> after reading Mr. Honza's e-mail I'm quite curious about this "component".
>>
>> Mr. Honza, wouldn't the arrows solve the problem?
>>
>> Em qui, 7 de abr de 2022 13:35, Ms. AnnaGrace <msannagrace20 at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Now that I think about the rubbing component, as a right-hander in
>> American Sign Language (ASL),
>> I find myself rubbing a *counter-clockwise* direction in the signs for
>> COFFEE, WASHING-A-DISH, SORRY, PLEASE, NAUSEA.
>>
>> I was never conscious of the direction in rubbing until now. I would be
>> interested in finding out which direction others are doing in ASL.
>> As a teacher of ASL, I think the direction of rubbing is important. (eg,
>> how does signing PLEASE in the other direction strike you?)
>>
>> ~ AnnaGrace
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:22 AM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> SignWriting List
>> April 7, 2022
>>
>> Hello SignWriting List, and Honza from the Czech Republic,
>>
>> Are you getting messages from the SignWriting List now, Honza, using your
>> new Gmail account?
>>
>> I hope you get this email.  I want to be sure that you get it, so please
>> tell us if you did.
>>
>> Regarding the Rub Symbol…Direction of rubbing was never written with the
>> symbol. The symbol always goes one direction and represents rubbing in
>> general without stating the direction of rubbing.
>>
>> But it's a very interesting idea, but never a part of the International
>> SignWriting Alphabet 2010 (ISWA).
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2022, at 1:03 AM, Honza Fikejs <honza.fikejs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Valerie,
>>
>> since I haven't received any emails from the list for last two years, I
>> am trying now to find out my questions I have posted and haven`t got any
>> response.
>> First of all I am wondering about rub symbol. I thought there used to be
>> two two rub symbols in the SignPuddle (clockwise and anticlockwise rolled),
>> but now I see only one there. .
>> In czech sign language the rub direction matters, so I teach my students
>> to be careful about way of rolling.
>> Is there a way how to write down direction of rubbing?
>> Now I am not sure, since there is only one rub symbol (maybe I only
>> imagined there was two)
>>
>> Thank you
>> Honza
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