[Sw-l] Rules or not?

Sun Aug 14 03:31:16 UTC 2022

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Josenilson Mendes

Em qui., 11 de ago. de 2022 às 15:24, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
escreveu:

> SignWriting List
> August 11, 2022
>
> Hello Josenilson and SignWriting List Members:
>
> Based on this video:
> https://youtube.com/shorts/Xd5YMCTlZfI?feature=share
>
> I created a screen capture of the Position of Contact and wrote the sign
> based on SignSpelling Guideline 1: Always write the Position of Contact,
> and SignSpelling Guideline 2: The Position of Contact becomes the Center of
> the Sign with the Movement Symbols relating to the Center. Please see
> attached. I will write another email with more detailed explanation and
> links to the SignSpelling Guidelines later…. Thanks for the great question
> and feel free to comment - this is fun to be back in touch!
>
>
> _________________
>
> SignWriting List
> August 11, 2022
>
> Thank you, Josenilson, for this video link. It is perfect!
>
> https://youtube.com/shorts/Xd5YMCTlZfI?feature=share
>
> My answer is coming… Val ;-)
> _____________
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2022, at 10:58 AM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
> https://youtube.com/shorts/Xd5YMCTlZfI?feature=share
> Josenilson Mendes
>
>
> Em qua., 10 de ago. de 2022 às 14:42, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <
> jsm88b at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> Em qua., 10 de ago. de 2022 02:11, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
> escreveu:
> SignWriting List
> August 9, 2022
>
> Very interesting.
>
> Can you attach a short video showing the sign? That will really help.
>
> You are correct that simple contact is quite different than actually
> grasping clothing or holding a belly. The Grasp Symbol was developed to
> show holding something. For example holding somebody else's hand in dance,
> or pinching your ear, or pinching your clothing. But if the hands are only
> touching the chest but not really holding anything then you are right that
> a contact star is all you need. Or maybe you do not need a contact symbol
> there at all.
>
> However I still feel the need to see the sign because I'm not quite sure
> what I'm reading. Are the two hands in front of the belly or torso? With
> the fingers intertwined with each other doing a movement 2 times in-between
> each other?
>
> Can the two hands be placed closer to each other directly in the Torso
> area between the Shoulder and Hip Lines?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
> Valerie Sutton
> sutton at signwiting.org
>
> -----------
>
> On Aug 9, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Valerie and friends of SW-List!
>
> It's about the symbol + (grasp contact). Some people say it is used to
> indicate permanent contact. I disagree. For example:
>
>
>
>
> Mapinguari (indigenous legend)
>
> For me the + symbol should be replaced by *, because the hands don't hold
> the belly,they just stay in contact with it.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Josenilson Mendes
>
>
>
> _____________
>
> On Aug 9, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Valerie and friends of SW-List!
>
> It's about the symbol + (grasp contact). Some people say it is used to
> indicate permanent contact. I disagree. For example:
>
>
>
>
> Mapinguari (indigenous legend)
>
> For me the + symbol should be replaced by *, because the hands don't hold
> the belly,they just stay in contact with it.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Josenilson Mendes
>
>
> Em qua., 10 de ago. de 2022 às 00:23, Valerie Sutton <
> sutton at signwriting.org> escreveu:
> SignWriting List
> August 9, 2022
>
> Hello Josenilson!
> It is great to read your message. Thank you for writing to the SignWriting
> List.
>
> Yes, for me at least, I follow Writing Guidelines when writing sign
> languages.
>
> For example, these two rules or guidelines mean a lot to me personally. I
> follow these everytime I write:
>
> SignSpelling Rule 1: Write the Position of Contact
> https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less063.html
>
> SignSpelling Rule 2: Every Sign Has A Center
> https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less064.html
>
> and it continues for many pages following on the web…
>
> These guidelines can also be found at the end of the
>
> Lessons in SignWriting Textbook
> https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0116-Lessons-SignWriting.pdf
>
> We had long discussions early in 2022 about guidelines for writing
> movement arrows and I had planned to write up a report about our decisions
> that we made together and then I got so busy I didn't get to it. Maybe now
> is the time to get back into more discussions?
>
> So what specific questions do you have?
>
>
> Val ;-)
>
> _______________
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2022, at 7:30 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, SW-List!
> Here in Brazil, we are in a discussion about whether or not threre are
> rules for SW.
>
> This page https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/ has spelling
> rules or not?
>
> Greetings
>
>
> Josenilson Mendes
>
>
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