[Sw-l] Digitizing SignWriting DOS Keyboards

Stefan Woehrmann 000000068eb2df61-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
Wed Feb 9 12:03:35 UTC 2022


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Am Mi., 9. Feb. 2022 um 11:32 Uhr schrieb Valerie Sutton <
sutton at signwriting.org>:

> SignWriting List
> February 9, 2022
>
> Hello Uta and Stefan -
>
> Thank you Uta, for your request for another Fingerspelling keyboard.
>
> The Fingerspeller Program in SignPuddle 2 gives choices of different
> keyboards. Right now, there is one for Germany installed. But we can add a
> second German Fingerspelling keyboard, if you want that, Uta. Have you
> tried the Fingerspeller Keyboard for Germany in SignPuddle 2 already?
> Please try it. If you still want changes, then we can add a second keyboard
> to match your style - we already have two keyboards for ASL too!
>
> Also, the fingerspelling keyboard for Swiss-German Sign Language is a
> separae keyboard - it is not Germany’s keyboard - two different sign
> languages.
>
> I recently created a little video to show how to use the Fingerspeller
> Keyboard in SignPuddle 2:
>
> Fingerspeller Program Video
> https://youtu.be/PvhY5CPEaPk
>
> I know this is all a little confusing. Amit is also developing new
> software with these keyboards as well as Steve.
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2022, at 1:52 AM, Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> with images:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 10:50 AM Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Hi Amit,
>
> I have corrected:
>
> AS1f210S10006M515x509S1f210485x491 T (not in table space -> window space)
>
> AS10110S10006M508x515S10110492x485 D
> AS1ce10S10006M511x515S1ce10489x485 F
> AS17610S10006M508x508S17610492x492 O
>
> like C -> side view (this is only my opinion, maybe Stefan says other)
>
> AS20320S10006S22a04M508x519S20320493x482S22a04495x504 ß  (movement only
> down)
>
> Best regards
> Uta
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 10:46 AM Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
> https://www.signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=de&alphabet=gsg
>
> signmaker kann leider die txt-Datei nicht lesen, daher habe ich es
> angepasst.
>
> Unfortunately, signmaker cannot read the txt file, so I have adapted it.
>
>
> Following text can added as plain text:
>
> AS14c20S10006M512x516S14c20489x485 SCH
> AS20320S10006S26506M517x508S20320483x492S26506502x494 SS
> AS20320S10006S22a04M508x519S20320493x482S22a04495x504 ß
> AS1f720S10006S23108M515x518S23108489x483S1f720486x503 Ä
> AS17610S10006S23108M513x519S17610490x503S23108487x481 Ö
> AS11520S10006S23108M513x526S11520490x496S23108487x474
> AS1f720S10006M510x508S1f720490x493 A
> AS14720S10006M507x511S14720493x489 B
> AS16d10S10006M509x510S16d10492x490 C
> AS10110S10006M508x515S10110492x485 D
> AS14a20S10006M508x508S14a20493x493 E
> AS1ce10S10006M511x515S1ce10489x485 F
> AS10002S10006M515x508S10002485x493 G
> AS11502S10006M515x508S11502485x493 H
> AS19220S10006M511x510S19220490x491 I
> AS19220S10006S2a20cM521x520S19220500x501S2a20c480x481 J
> AS14020S10006M515x515S14020486x485 K
> AS1dc20S10006M512x515S1dc20488x485 L
> AS18d50S10006M510x513S18d50490x488 M
> AS11950S10006M511x513S11950489x487 N
> AS17610S10006M508x508S17610492x492 O
> AS14050S10006M515x515S14050486x485 P
> AS1f057S10006M512x515S1f057489x485 Q
> AS11a20S10006M508x515S11a20493x485 R
> AS20320S10006M508x508S20320493x493 S
> AS1f210S10006M515x509S1f210485x491 T
> AS11520S10006M508x515S11520493x485 U
> AS10e20S10006M508x515S10e20493x485 V
> AS18720S10006M509x515S18720491x486 W
> AS10610S10006M508x513S10610493x487 X
> AS19a20S10006M514x510S19a20486x490 Y
> AS10020S10006S2450aM520x520S10020481x490S2450a489x481 Z
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 10:33 AM Stefan Woehrmann <
> 000000068eb2df61-dmarc-request at listserv.valenciacollege.edu> wrote:
> Good morning Amit and all,
> Digitizing SignWriting DOS Keyboards
>
> I do not understand what this is all about. I downloaded the txt. file but
> of course ... only letters and numbers....
>
> # DGS - German
> SCH,M512x507S14c20489x476
> SS,M526x508S20320492x492S26506511x494,M513x507S20320492x492S23108487x470
> ß,M513x507S20320492x492S23108487x470
>
>
> Is there anywhere a visual representation of what it looks like in
> SignWriting?  Would like to compare the DOS representation with your
> variation.
>
> All best
>
> Stefan
>
> Am Mi., 9. Feb. 2022 um 09:57 Uhr schrieb Amit Moryossef <
> amitmoryossef at gmail.com>:
> From my keeping track, and storing the files, I have the ones in bold (all
> are attached).
>
> America (ASL)
> Brazil (LIBRAS)
> China (CSL)
> Denmak (DTS)
> France (LSF)
> Germany (DGS)
> German-Switzerland (DSGS)
> Great Britain (GBS)
> Honduras (LESHO)
> Portugual (LSP)
> Thailand (ThSL)
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 12:31 AM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org
> > wrote:
> SignWriting List
> February 8, 2022
>
> Amit, Sutthikhun and Steve -
>
> Thank you for all you are doing for SignWriting… Thank you,
> Sutthikhun, for doing so many FSW files so fast!
>
> So to summarize, I am not sure...you should have the FSW files for
> the fingerspelling from these countries (I think). Do you have these files?
>
> America (ASL)
> Brazil (LIBRAS)
> China (CSL)
> Denmak (DTS)
> France (LSF)
> Germany (DGS)
> German-Switzerland (DSGS)
> Great Britain (GBS)
> Honduras (LESHO)
> Portugual (LSP)
> Thailand (ThSL)
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ___________________
>
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2022, at 8:31 AM, Amit Moryossef <amitmoryossef at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Valerie and Sutthikhun for the new files for Libras, CSL and ThSL!
> I have added them to my program, although for now I do not know how to
> properly use the phonetic representations.
>
> Amit
> _________________
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 8:29 PM Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <
> suttikunep at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Amit and everyone in SW List!
>
> The TXT files for ThaiSL (ThSL) and ChineseSL (CSL) fingerspellings
> are available here. Because ThSL and CSL fingerspellings differ from those
> of alphabetic writing systems such as Latin, Greek, Cyrillic, and so
> on, please read my notes in the file "Fingerpelling-CSL" on linguistic
> detail. ThSL fingerspelling is based on Thai, an Abugida script, while CSL
> is based on pinyin, which is signed phoneme-by-phoneme rather
> than letter-by-letter.
>
>
> Sutthikhun
>
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 16:50, Amit Moryossef <amitmoryossef at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Hi all
> I'm looking to re-digitize SignWriting fingerspelling in
> different languages, based on the SW DOS Keyboards.
>
> Would anyone be interested in paid work to go over the keyboards and write
> each character with FSW?
>
> Amit
>
>
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>
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