[Sw-l] Digitizing SignWriting DOS Keyboards

Wed Feb 9 12:47:56 UTC 2022

I would like to inform you that in Portuguese Sign Language ( LGP ) there
are some problems.
There are some letters and numbers that are not correct in the system, so
it can be dangerous to copy them blindly.

The number 8 for example in LGP doesn't have a SignPudlle configuration to
represent exactly how we do it.
I made a video on one of my channels and two portuguese ones showed me that
the writing is not faithful to the real signage, because it doesn't have
the hand configuration in the signpudle yet.

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 9:05 AM Stefan Woehrmann <
000000068eb2df61-dmarc-request at listserv.valenciacollege.edu> wrote:

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> Am Mi., 9. Feb. 2022 um 11:32 Uhr schrieb Valerie Sutton <
> sutton at signwriting.org>:
>
>> SignWriting List
>> February 9, 2022
>>
>> Hello Uta and Stefan -
>>
>> Thank you Uta, for your request for another Fingerspelling keyboard.
>>
>> The Fingerspeller Program in SignPuddle 2 gives choices of different
>> keyboards. Right now, there is one for Germany installed. But we can add a
>> second German Fingerspelling keyboard, if you want that, Uta. Have you
>> tried the Fingerspeller Keyboard for Germany in SignPuddle 2 already?
>> Please try it. If you still want changes, then we can add a second keyboard
>> to match your style - we already have two keyboards for ASL too!
>>
>> Also, the fingerspelling keyboard for Swiss-German Sign Language is a
>> separae keyboard - it is not Germany’s keyboard - two different sign
>> languages.
>>
>> I recently created a little video to show how to use the Fingerspeller
>> Keyboard in SignPuddle 2:
>>
>> Fingerspeller Program Video
>> https://youtu.be/PvhY5CPEaPk
>>
>> I know this is all a little confusing. Amit is also developing new
>> software with these keyboards as well as Steve.
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 1:52 AM, Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> with images:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 10:50 AM Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Hi Amit,
>>
>> I have corrected:
>>
>> AS1f210S10006M515x509S1f210485x491 T (not in table space -> window space)
>>
>> AS10110S10006M508x515S10110492x485 D
>> AS1ce10S10006M511x515S1ce10489x485 F
>> AS17610S10006M508x508S17610492x492 O
>>
>> like C -> side view (this is only my opinion, maybe Stefan says other)
>>
>> AS20320S10006S22a04M508x519S20320493x482S22a04495x504 ß  (movement only
>> down)
>>
>> Best regards
>> Uta
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 10:46 AM Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>  Hi all,
>>
>> https://www.signbank.org/signmaker/#?ui=de&alphabet=gsg
>>
>> signmaker kann leider die txt-Datei nicht lesen, daher habe ich es
>> angepasst.
>>
>> Unfortunately, signmaker cannot read the txt file, so I have adapted it.
>>
>>
>> Following text can added as plain text:
>>
>> AS14c20S10006M512x516S14c20489x485 SCH
>> AS20320S10006S26506M517x508S20320483x492S26506502x494 SS
>> AS20320S10006S22a04M508x519S20320493x482S22a04495x504 ß
>> AS1f720S10006S23108M515x518S23108489x483S1f720486x503 Ä
>> AS17610S10006S23108M513x519S17610490x503S23108487x481 Ö
>> AS11520S10006S23108M513x526S11520490x496S23108487x474
>> AS1f720S10006M510x508S1f720490x493 A
>> AS14720S10006M507x511S14720493x489 B
>> AS16d10S10006M509x510S16d10492x490 C
>> AS10110S10006M508x515S10110492x485 D
>> AS14a20S10006M508x508S14a20493x493 E
>> AS1ce10S10006M511x515S1ce10489x485 F
>> AS10002S10006M515x508S10002485x493 G
>> AS11502S10006M515x508S11502485x493 H
>> AS19220S10006M511x510S19220490x491 I
>> AS19220S10006S2a20cM521x520S19220500x501S2a20c480x481 J
>> AS14020S10006M515x515S14020486x485 K
>> AS1dc20S10006M512x515S1dc20488x485 L
>> AS18d50S10006M510x513S18d50490x488 M
>> AS11950S10006M511x513S11950489x487 N
>> AS17610S10006M508x508S17610492x492 O
>> AS14050S10006M515x515S14050486x485 P
>> AS1f057S10006M512x515S1f057489x485 Q
>> AS11a20S10006M508x515S11a20493x485 R
>> AS20320S10006M508x508S20320493x493 S
>> AS1f210S10006M515x509S1f210485x491 T
>> AS11520S10006M508x515S11520493x485 U
>> AS10e20S10006M508x515S10e20493x485 V
>> AS18720S10006M509x515S18720491x486 W
>> AS10610S10006M508x513S10610493x487 X
>> AS19a20S10006M514x510S19a20486x490 Y
>> AS10020S10006S2450aM520x520S10020481x490S2450a489x481 Z
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 10:33 AM Stefan Woehrmann <
>> 000000068eb2df61-dmarc-request at listserv.valenciacollege.edu> wrote:
>> Good morning Amit and all,
>> Digitizing SignWriting DOS Keyboards
>>
>> I do not understand what this is all about. I downloaded the txt. file
>> but of course ... only letters and numbers....
>>
>> # DGS - German
>> SCH,M512x507S14c20489x476
>> SS,M526x508S20320492x492S26506511x494,M513x507S20320492x492S23108487x470
>> ß,M513x507S20320492x492S23108487x470
>>
>>
>> Is there anywhere a visual representation of what it looks like in
>> SignWriting?  Would like to compare the DOS representation with your
>> variation.
>>
>> All best
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> Am Mi., 9. Feb. 2022 um 09:57 Uhr schrieb Amit Moryossef <
>> amitmoryossef at gmail.com>:
>> From my keeping track, and storing the files, I have the ones in bold
>> (all are attached).
>>
>> America (ASL)
>> Brazil (LIBRAS)
>> China (CSL)
>> Denmak (DTS)
>> France (LSF)
>> Germany (DGS)
>> German-Switzerland (DSGS)
>> Great Britain (GBS)
>> Honduras (LESHO)
>> Portugual (LSP)
>> Thailand (ThSL)
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 12:31 AM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org
>> > wrote:
>> SignWriting List
>> February 8, 2022
>>
>> Amit, Sutthikhun and Steve -
>>
>> Thank you for all you are doing for SignWriting… Thank you,
>> Sutthikhun, for doing so many FSW files so fast!
>>
>> So to summarize, I am not sure...you should have the FSW files for
>> the fingerspelling from these countries (I think). Do you have these files?
>>
>> America (ASL)
>> Brazil (LIBRAS)
>> China (CSL)
>> Denmak (DTS)
>> France (LSF)
>> Germany (DGS)
>> German-Switzerland (DSGS)
>> Great Britain (GBS)
>> Honduras (LESHO)
>> Portugual (LSP)
>> Thailand (ThSL)
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
>> ___________________
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2022, at 8:31 AM, Amit Moryossef <amitmoryossef at GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Valerie and Sutthikhun for the new files for Libras, CSL and ThSL!
>> I have added them to my program, although for now I do not know how to
>> properly use the phonetic representations.
>>
>> Amit
>> _________________
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 8:29 PM Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <
>> suttikunep at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Amit and everyone in SW List!
>>
>> The TXT files for ThaiSL (ThSL) and ChineseSL (CSL) fingerspellings
>> are available here. Because ThSL and CSL fingerspellings differ from those
>> of alphabetic writing systems such as Latin, Greek, Cyrillic, and so
>> on, please read my notes in the file "Fingerpelling-CSL" on linguistic
>> detail. ThSL fingerspelling is based on Thai, an Abugida script, while CSL
>> is based on pinyin, which is signed phoneme-by-phoneme rather
>> than letter-by-letter.
>>
>>
>> Sutthikhun
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 16:50, Amit Moryossef <amitmoryossef at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Hi all
>> I'm looking to re-digitize SignWriting fingerspelling in
>> different languages, based on the SW DOS Keyboards.
>>
>> Would anyone be interested in paid work to go over the keyboards
>> and write each character with FSW?
>>
>> Amit
>>
>>
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