[Sw-l] General VS Native ASL fingerspelling: S-O-U-T-H D-A-K-O-T-A

[Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai]

Hello Adam, AnnaGrace, Valerie, and everyone!,

Thank you all for your interest in my SW video. I hope it will be applied
for educational purposes and will spark people's interest in native
fingerspelling's various handshapes. To AnnaGrace, I'm also happy to know
that you'll use it to show your students. To Adam, thanks for your
informative linguistic explanation! I'm also an enthusiastic amateur
linguist, so this info can interest me so much. Could you give me more
native handshape allophones in SW? To Valerie, you're welcome! It's a lot
of fun to come up with creative and interesting contents for SW.

Sutthikhun
[image: sign (14).png]

On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 09:49, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:

> SignWriting List
> February 14, 2022
>
> Wow Adam! I had no idea. I look forward to really studying this tomorrow.
> thank you for this message
>
> Val ;-)
>
> --------
>
> On Feb 14, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Adam Frost <icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Yes, there are a lot of allophones in fingerspelling. Allophones are any
> phonemes or smallest meaningless units of language that are perceived to
> mean the same thing but follow a specific rule to when they are used. In
> this case, there are several handshapes that mean the same letter in
> fingerspelling.
>
> One of my old linguist professors explained it as Superman always appears
> when there is trouble, while Clark Kent appears when there is news. They
> never appear in the other’s situation because they are actually the same
> person.
>
> Most languages can find the use of allophones, but language learners are
> usually only taught the “correct” form even if it should actually be an
> allophone that is used.
>
> I once taught a fingerspelling course and showed students how there are
> about 150 different handshapes for the 26 letters of the English alphabet!
> Some letters had as many as 10 different allophones!
>
> Byron Bridges made a good example of this with the fingerspelling of South
> Dakota in the video you shared.
>
> I think this issue of allophones is one of the reasons why it can
> be difficult to decide how to write something in a specific language (in
> ASL for example) because native users don’t see allophones as being
> different while language learners don’t realize the different phonemes are
> considered allophones and therefore the same thing.
>
> And to make it even more complex, there are times when the same phoneme is
> considered to be associated with a different allophone in different cases.
> That would be similar to how Bruce Wayne is Batman and Dick Grayson is
> Robin, who is also Batman when Bruce Wayne isn’t around. (No wonder why
> identity crisis is a thing!)
>
> (This was intended to be a short email, but it has started run away with
> me. I guess you can’t tell I enjoy linguistics. Ha!)
>
>
> Adam
>
>
> ————
>
> On Feb 14, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Sutthikhun Phaengphongsai <
> suttikunep at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi all! I just released a new video about native ASL fingerspelling in SW.
>
> As a non-native signer, I'm surprised as to how all native signers are
> able to fingerspell so fast! I think the explanation in the original video
> gave me the answer. That's interesting to me! 🏃👋
>
> Youtube: https://youtu.be/yiFwdvWHFhk
> Original video: https://youtu.be/WrerwSBXKCA
>
> Sutthikhun
> <sign (14).png>
>
>
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