[Sw-l] Revisiting Mundbildschrift

[Amit Moryossef]

Thanks, Craxton. If you could connect me with Thimo Kleyboldt that would be
great.

And thanks Valerie! with the updated resource from 2014, and pointing out
the inhale/exhale symbols, we are now done with 39/49 visemes
<https://github.com/sign-language-processing/signwriting/tree/main/signwriting/mouthing>
!
Only 10 more to go. If you have any ideas on how to address them, that
would be great :)

what are the symbols used for the mouths here?
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for these - the mouth is specifically not round. what symbol should I
alternate for?
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not sure how to draw this mouth and tongue: (different than "n")
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these three are also quite special, any ideas?
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On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:18 AM Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
wrote:

> SignWriting List
> June 26, 2024
>
> Hello Amit,
> Thank you for this important interest in Mundbildschrift.
>
> And thank you, Stefan Woehrmann, for giving Mundbildschrift to the world.
> I used to call it “SpeechWriting” in English, but others called it
> LipWriting or Mouth Writing ;-)
>
> No matter what it was called, it is very innovative and successful.
>
> Regarding documents, there are other publications on Mundbildschrift at
> later dates after 2010, in books as well as the internet. I will try to
> provide you with some links. It started to spread in Brazil too, so it is
> not only Germany.
>
> For example, here are some published in 2014, at the SignWriting Symposium
> 2014:
>
> https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0002.html
>
>
> https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/archive/sws0002_Abstract_Woerhmann's_SpeechWriting_Teaches_Spoken_Language.pdf
>
>
> https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/archive/sws0002_01_How_I_teach_Mundbildschrift.pdf
>
>
> https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/archive/sws0002_02_Mundbilder_in_SignWriting_and_Spelling_rules.pdf
>
>
> https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/archive/sws0002_03_ABC_in_Mundbildschrift_For_English.pdf
>
>
> https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/archive/sws0002_04_ABC_Tabelle_neu_SW_Deutsch.pdf
>
> This one is dated 2014
>
> https://www.signwriting.org/symposium/archive/sws0002_05_Overview_of_Symbols_in_Mundbildschrift_Juli_2014.pdf
>
> All of the symbols in Mundbildschrift originally were based on the symbols
> in Sutton SignWriting, but then they were somewhat exagerated or stylized
> to look a little different but very close to the original…
>
> For a sample, look at the attached screen capture from SWU - these are
> SignWriting symbols for Air - they look slightly different, but very close
> to the ones used in Mundbildschrift
>
> And they are not arm lines!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:29 AM, Amit Moryossef <amitmoryossef at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I've been interested in writing mouthing using SignWriting, and
> encountered Mundbildschrift,
> > with the latest documentation being here from 2010.
> >
> > I modernized that document, collecting all the samples, correcting IPA
> when needed, and re-writing the SignWriting in FSW instead of using images.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/sign-language-processing/signwriting/tree/main/signwriting/mouthing
> > However, as you can see, I am missing many writings, specifically ones
> that are not easily available, for example:>
> >
> >
> > Therefore, I would appreciate any help to modernize this, by sending me
> any of the missing writing from the table or discussing alternatives. In my
> opinion, the writing should be efficient - I could write the last image
> above (with a plosive) using 6 different arms, but that seems like a waste.
> >
> > Looking forward to seeing your suggestions!
> > Amit
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