James 3:6

ualarauans ualarauans at YAHOO.COM
Wed Apr 11 05:35:30 UTC 2007


Lamin awiliuþ!

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hails, Walhahrafn!
> 
> We live and learn!  I just came across this verse in which 'af'
> translates hUPO, just as you did:
> 
> ni gajiukaizau af unþiuþa, ak gajiukais [af] þiuþa unþiuþ.
> Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
> MH NIKW hUPO TOU KAKOU, ALLA NIKA EN TWi AGAQWi TO KAKON
> R 12:21
> 
> (The 2nd 'af' presumably an accidental addition.)
> 
> LN
> 
> 
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Hails, Walhahrabn!
> > 
> > Looks convincing.  Just one thing comes to mind: I would suggest
> > 'fram' rather than 'af' to translate hUPO here.  This seems to 
be the
> > normal preposition used where Gothic needs to express the agent 
in a
> > passive construction (unlike Old Norse, where it would 
be 'af').  I
> > can't think of any examples where 'af' is used in this way in the
> > Gothic corpus.
> > 
> > http://www.wulfila.be/lib/streitberg/1910/HTML/B037.html
> > http://www.wulfila.be/lib/streitberg/1910/HTML/B001.html
> > 
> > LN
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hails!
> > > 
> > > (James 3:6):
> > > 
> > > "And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the 
tongue 
> > > among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and 
setteth on 
> > > fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell".
> > > 
> > > KAI hH GLWSSA PUR hO KOSMOS THS ADIKIAS hH GLWSSA KAQISTATAI 
EN TOIS 
> > > MELESIN hHMWN hH SPILOUSA hOLON TO SWMA KAI FLOGIZOUSA TON 
TROCON 
> > > THS GENESEWS KAI FLOGIZOMENH hUPO THS GEENNHS
> > > 
> > > [*] jah tuggo <ist> fon fairhvus inwindiþos so tuggo gasatida 
ist in 
> > > liþum unsaraim anawammjandei allata leik jah intandjandei run 
> > > gabaurþais jah intandida af gaiainnin
> > > 
> > > Please criticize the Gothic version. All comments are welcome.
> > > 
> > > Thanx
> > > 
> > > Ualarauans
> > >
> >
>


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