LL-L "Resources" 2009.07.16 (05) [EN]

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From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <roger.thijs at euro-support.be>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2009.07.16 (03) [EN]

 > From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Resources
> Anyway, I am wondering how to get hold of the earliest versions of the
Middle Saxon and Middle Dutch Ulenspeghel texts. I am not too interested in
later translations.

As to Geeraedts:
- The first edition in Dutch was printed in Antwerp by *Van
Hoochstraten*between 1525 and 1546
- The second edition dates from 1575 and was printed in Antwerp by van
Ghelen
- The third edition dates from *1580* and was also printed in Antwerp by *van
Ghelen*
The second edition has the privileg of the third edition and is made using
worn plates of the third edition, so something isd wrong with its dating.

There is one known copy left of the first edition. It is momentarily in the
*Royal Library in Copenhagen*.
A modernized version of this first edition was printed in 1790 by De Langhe
in Deventer.
The lather was further modernized into modern Dutch and is available as:
- Wonderbaarlijke en zeldzame Historie van Thyl Ulenspiegel... hertaald en
ingeleid door Guy Segers en Patricia Visscher,
1996, Leuven, Davidsfonds/Clauwaert, ISBN 90-6306-349-0, 128 pp.
I don't know if there is any version in the original Dutch used in
1525-1546.

The *1580* version was recently publihed as facsimile:
- Ulenspiegel, Antwerpen 1580, facsimile verzorgd en van een inleiding
voorzien door Dr. Loek Geeraedts,
1987 Antwerpen, Berghmans, ISBN 90-70959-11-9
45 pp comment + facsimile not numbered + 1 p.
(I count 60 pp for the unnumbered facsimile part.)
I scanned the first 4 facsimile pages:
http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/tu/1.jpg
http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/tu/2.jpg
http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/tu/3.jpg
http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/tu/4.jpg
as well as the page at the end
http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/tu/0.jpg

There is also a publication about the Uilenspiegels' symbols and tradition:
Jozef Jansen, Uilenspiegel, De wereld op zijn kop,
1999, Leuven, Davidsfonds, ISBN 90-6306-394-6, 272 pp.
It just briefly refers to the first Dutch edition of van Hoochstraten
p.113-116
but it has no quotes in the original language.
Jansen found some other editions:
- A list of banned books of 1570 lists an other edition by van Ghelen, but
no copy of that edition is left (except for a version in French)
- An edition by *Derick Wijlickx* in Rees (Doetinchem) in *1577*, of which a
version is preserved (details of the whereabouts are not mentioned
unfortunately)

Hope this helps,
Regards,
Roger

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Resources

Thanks a lot, Roger.

It is interesting to read on the third page:

Int Lant van Sassen / in een dorp genamt knetlinghe woonende een man genaemt
Claes Thiel ...
[In the land of Saxony, in a village named Knetlinge lived a man called
Claes Thiel ...]

This places the story in Kneitlingen near Brunswick, thus in the
southwestern Eastphalian (former Angrian) dialect area in what is now
Northern Germany. I am just saying this because I've heard some people say
it's a Flemish story. Well, I guess it still could be, but Middle Dutch
sources would then hardly refer to that eastern area.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA

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