LL-L "Language survival" 2010.12.15 (02) [AF-EN-NDS-NL]

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From: "Stellingwerfs Eigen" <info at stellingwerfs-eigen.nl>

Subject: LL-L "Language varieties"

Beste At en aanderen,

Van de Afrikaanse spraoke (en polletiek) weet ik vusen te min om daor een
zinnig woord over te zeggen, mar...

Krek etzelde gebeurt hier in de omkrieten ok. Ik geleuve ok niet in et
instaand holen deur een zak mit centen of de verplichtings die bi'jglieks
heuren bi'j et onder Diel III van et Haandvest veur Minderhiedstaelen van de
EU valen. We moe'n et van onderen- of van bovenof, mit mekeer zels doen.
Jammergenoeg zie ik (nee, ik wil niet mit mien vingertien wiezen!) Ron en
Marcus - beide hiele goeie platpraoters - gister of eregister liekwels ok in
et Engels overgaon as et een betien de wetenschoppelike kaante op gaot. Tja,
en awwe et dan zels al niet doen, hoe zuwwe et dan nog van aanderen
verwaachten..?

Mit een vrundelike groet uut Stellingwarf,

Piet Bult

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>

Subject: Language survival

Piet,

Af un an ward ’n Snack technisch un theoreetsch, un dat ward wichtig, dat *
alltohoop* dat verstaht un mitmaken kœnt, so ook de Experten, de de Spraak
nich verstaht.

Grötens,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>

Subject: LL-L "Language survival" 2010.12.14 (01) [AF]

If you write a scientific paper, it is because you have ideas you want to
present. If you write it in Afrikaans, you might reach a few thousand
readers in your field at most, probably a lot less.

When I lived in SA there was a tendency for Rand Afrikaans and Pretoria
Universities in particular to present the occasional paper in Afrikaans at
conferences, but it was recognised that it was more or less a political
requirement. The delegates who had come from Britain, or France, or the USA,
or anywhere else in the world, tip-toed out for a coffee if they were close
enough to the exit. Many of these papers had something useful to say - but
not, apparently, to the 99.99% of the scientific community who happen not to
understand Afrikaans.

There are any number of ways to preserve your language; scientific
literature surely isn't one of them, unless you specifically *don't* want to
be reviewed or cited by the communitiy at large.

The vast majority of people who read and write English, aren't English, by a
ratio of at least 10:1 by my reckoning. When it comes to Germanic languages
losing their roots, the language of the English suffers as much from this
"globalisation" as any other - it's been effectively hi-jacked by the rest
of the world, who seem hell-bent on turning it into pidgin Graeco-Latin.

Paul.

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From: Mike Wintzer <k9mw at yahoo.com>

Subject: LL-L "Language survival" 2010.12.14 (01) [AF]

Heel bedroevend wat ik daar lees, At.

English could be the saviour of all the

other languages of the world, if it

would become a lingua franca in the

the form of a SECOND language for

everybody, giving the first languages,

big or small, the needed breathing

space. As you point out, At, the

opposite is happening.

What is needed is the corresponding

legal framework, helaas absent but in

a handful of states, none though w.r.t.

English.

Sadly, Mike Wintzer

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From: "Elsie Zinsser" <ezinsser at mweb.co.za>
Subject: LL-L "Language survival" 2010.12.14 (01) [AF]

Haai almal,

At, ons kan kerm en kla oor die tekort an akademiese werk in Afrikaans

maar terwyl die ondersteuningsbasis stadig maar seker wegkalwe en terwyl

ons nagraads-gekwalifiseerde kinders moet oorsee uitwyk om werk te kry,

gaan hierdie situasie voortduur, en vererger.

En laat ons maar eerlik wees; dis eenvoudig net meer prakties om ’n PhD in

Engels eerder as Afrikaans te doen, want die kanse om kontrakte by oorsese

akademiese instellings te kry, is net soveel beter!

Ek hoor juis in die week dat die ANC regering vir die VSA gevra het om
visa’s aan

nagraadse Suid Afrikaners in te perk sodat hulle kan huistoe kom en hier
werk.

Nou dis ‘n grap met werkreservering en loopbaan promosie ’n realiteit vir
sekere rasse.

Groete,

Elsie Zinsser

- - - - -

At de Lange pos:

*Afrikaanse wetenskaplike publikasies gaan kreeftegang*

04/08/2010 17:25:31

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