maklak (was RE: Jargon in Alaska Gold Rush?)

[Mitchell Roy]

touché, you are quite right!
Roy

-----Original Message-----
From: lilandr at yahoo.com [mailto:lilandr at yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 5:11 PM
To: Mitchell Roy
Cc: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: maklak (was RE: Jargon in Alaska Gold Rush?)


Well, was Service (the *Klondike* poet, remember)
writing about the use of "muckluck" in the Central
Yupik area, or about the use of "muckluck" (the term,
not necessarily its precise original Yupik referent)
somewhere closer to the Klondike?

I don't know the answer; I'm just pointing out the
possibility that "maklak" might in fact have been in
general (English, CJ, what have you) use in a region
where CJ was used, and if it was then used in CJ the
fact that it wasn't of Chinook origin doesn't preclude
its qualifying as CJ.

lilEnd 

--- Mitchell Roy <roy.mitchell at SEALASKA.COM> wrote:
> Other than that the places where mukluk was used,
> and where CJ was used, in
> Alaska, were hundreds of miles apart?  And there are
> no bearded seals
> anywhere where CJ is attested?  Maybe I'm missing
> something.  First off, is
> 'mukluk' attested in CJ as a word for waterproof,
> sealskin boot?
> Thanks.
> Roy Michell
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ros' Haruo [mailto:lilandbr at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 8:24 PM
> To: roy.mitchell at SEALASKA.COM
> Cc: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Jargon in Alaska Gold Rush?
> 
> 
> Still, if there was in fact significant use of CJ in
> Alaska and the
> Klondike, isn't it likely that "mEqlEq" or "maklak"
> or something in between
> was *in* Chinook (Jargon) regardless of where it may
> have been *from*?
> 
> lilEnd
> 
> >From: Mitchell Roy <roy.mitchell at SEALASKA.COM>
> >Reply-To: Mitchell Roy <roy.mitchell at SEALASKA.COM>
> >To: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
> >Subject: Re: Jargon in Alaska Gold Rush?
> >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:13:43 -0800
> >
> >Quick note:  'Mukluk' doesn't come from Chinook;
> rather, it's a loan from
> >Central Yup'ik Eskimo, maklak, where it refers to
> the species of seal
> >(bearded seal, a.k.a. thong seal) whence
> hard-bottomed mukluks are made.
> >Roy Mitchell
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jon Burpee [mailto:jburpee at YAHOO.COM]
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:37 PM
> >To: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
> >Subject: Re: Jargon in Alaska Gold Rush?
> >
> >
> >I think Robert Service, the klondike poet, uses
> terms here and there.
> >Check out "The Low-Down White" for an unpolitically
> correct usage of
> >'klooch' (kloochman) and Siwash.
> >
> >Check out "The Ballad of Hard-Luck Henry for a use
> of 'cheechako'
> >
> >Check out "the Ballad of Blasphemous Bill" for use
> of 'mucklucks' and
> >'cheechako'
> >
> >Undoubtedly, there are more in Service's poetry.
> >
> >Jon Burpee
> >
> >Nadja Adolf <yakimabelle at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> >
> >Anyone know of any sources on this?
> >
> >
> >
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