[Corpora-List] About Part of Speech in English and Chinese

Xing Fukun xingfukun001 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 5 01:01:02 UTC 2009


Hi Richards,
(1) I think  it can be accepted to say "把 礼品 包装 精美 (点),我 还要 送人 呢!".
(2) Sometimes the adjective following the verb can be an adverbial but not a complement. An Example:
发展 迅猛 的 经济 
We cannot say "把 经济 发展 迅猛",but we can say "迅猛 发展 的 经济".  "迅猛" is an adverbial here but not a complement.
(3) We can transfer "一件 包装 精美 的 礼品" to "一件 精美 包装 的 礼品" . How do you tag "包装" in this sentence? Some other examples:
“一件 漂亮 外观/n 的 礼品” “一件 精细 加工/v 的 礼品”.
Cheers, 
Fukun




发件人: Xiao, Zhonghua
发送时间: 2009-11-04 21:38:01
收件人: Fukun Xing; Corpora at uib.no
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主题: RE: [Corpora-List] About Part of Speech in English and Chinese

Hi Fukun,

It is true that in your new example "ba yifu xi ganjing" (BA clothes wash clean), xi "wash" is a verb and ganjing "clean" is an adjective, but the adjetctive ganjing "clean" is still a complement, not an adverbial. The structure of this new example looks like that of the old example because of the special BA structure used, which preposes the object to the pre-verb slot: without BA, the same meaning - but not style - is expressed as "xi ganjing yifu" (wash clean clothes). You said that "baozhuang jingmei" shares the same structure as "xi ganjing", but can you say "ba lipin baozhuang jingmei" while we can say "ba yiwu xi ganjing"?

Cheers,

Richard 


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From: Fukun Xing [mailto:xingfukun001 at gmail.com]
Sent: Wed 04/11/2009 12:37
To: Xiao, Zhonghua; Corpora at uib.no
Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] About Part of Speech in English and Chinese


Hi Xiao,
Nice to get your analysis of the sentence. 
>In the Chinese example "yi jian baozhuang jingmei de1 lipin" (a gift with a beautiful  >package), baozhuang is a clearly a noun, or to be precise, a verb used as a noun in context  >(to be tagged as VN). It cannot possibly be a verb because adverbials go before the verb  >they modify in Chinese. 
I don't agree your analysis. How do you analyze the sentence like:
? ?? ? ??
"??"is an adjective without any doubt, but it appears after the verb "?". So "?? ??" can be analyzed like "? ??". "??" is an adjective as "??" and "??" is a verb as "?". 
What's your opinion?
Best 
Fukun



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