[Lingtyp] "I hide my stone in my house"

[Denys T.]

Hi Ian & Sebastian, 

at least, in Finnish it would be the same Illative case for both. Here’s a random example from the internet:

(1) Piilouduin vessa-an
hide.oneself.pst.1sg toilet-ill
‘I’ve hidden in the toilet’ (vauva.fi <http://vauva.fi/>)

Best, 
Denys 

> On 11 Oct 2018, at 14:19, Sebastian Nordhoff <sebastian.nordhoff at glottotopia.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ian,
> this might even become clearer with transitive and intransitive 'hide'.
> What about
> 
> (1) My sister hides in the garden
> (2) I hide my sister in the garden
> 
> How would this work in Finnish-style languages? (Obviously, reflexives
> can complicate the picture)
> 
> Best
> Sebastian
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/11/2018 01:00 PM, Joo Ian wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I am interested in the following hypothesis:
>> 
>> In most of the world's languages, the PP "in my house" in sentence (1) and (2) are the same.
>> 
>> (1) My stone is in my house.
>> (2) I hide my stone in my house.
>> 
>> For example, in German:
>> 
>> (1) Mein Stein ist "in meinem Haus".
>> (2) Ich verstecke meinen Stein "in meinem Haus".
>> 
>> Although there are few languages where the PP of (1) and (2) are not identical, such as Finnish:
>> 
>> (1) Kiveni on "talossani". (Locative)
>> (2) Piilotan kiveni "talooni". (Illative)
>> 
>> But cases like Finnish are far fewer than English-like cases, I think.
>> 
>> I think this is interesting because the PP of (1) and that of (2) are semantically different: the PP in (1) is a location whereas that in PP is the endpoint of a placement event. If I can show that the two PPs are morphologically identical in most of the world's languages, then I can suggest that placement event profiles a static location as its endpoint and not a dynamic goal, like Rohde has argued in her dissertation (https://scholarship.rice.edu/handle/1911/18015)
>> 
>> Although I find this issue interesting, I would like to know if others find it so as well. What do you think? (Also, I would appreciate if anyone can let me know any other Finnish-like cases)
>> 
>> From Hong Kong,
>> Ian Joo
>> http://ianjoo.academia.edu
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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