[Lingtyp] Query: extended direct speech (Denis CREISSELS)

周晨磊 zhouchenlei at 126.com
Thu Apr 25 00:13:04 UTC 2019


Dear Denis:


The phenomenon you mentioned is very intresting. I guess it might have to do with the notion "logophoricity". This term,  first introduced by Hagège in 1974  when described some African languages (in recent years, logophoricity was found in East Asian languages, such as Amdo Tibetan and Japanese dialects, see Bugaeva 2008; Ebihara 2014), refers to "the phenomenon in which the perspective or point of view of an internal protagonist of a sentence or discourse, as opposed to that of the current, external speaker" (Huang 2007: 266; see also Clements 1975; Culy 1994, 1997; etc.) For example, in "John said that Ben had seen him", the "him" must refer back to the matrix subject John if it is in logophoric form; on the contrary, if "him" is a regular pronoun, it stands for a person outside the context, David, Peter, whatever.


Bugaeva, Anna. 2008. Reported discourse and logophoricity in Southern Hokkaido dialects of Ainu. 言语研究Gengo Kenkyu. 133: 31-75.
Ebihara, Shiho. 2014. Logophoric pronouns in Amdo Tibetan. 思言 東京外国語大学記述言語学論集 第 10 号:3-12.
Yan, Huang. 2007. Pragmatics. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
Clements, George N. 1975. The logophoric pronoun in Ewe: its role in discourse. Journal of West African Languages 10(2), 141-177.
Culy, Christopher. 1994. Aspects of logophoric marking. Linguistics 32(5), 1055-1094.
Culy, Christopher. 1997. Logophoric pronouns and point of view. Linguistics 35 (1997), 845-859.


I hope this is somehow helpful for your questions.
Best wishes,
Chenlei
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Chenlei Zhou, Assistant Professor
Institute of Linguistics, Chinese Academy of Social Sciences
#5 Jianguomennei Street, Beijing, 100732, P.R.China 



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>From: Olesya Khanina <olesya.khanina at gmail.com>
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>Subject: [Lingtyp] 2nd CfP: Down by river (Helsinki, 5-7 Nov 2019),
>	deadline extended to 31 May 2019
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>Dear colleagues,
>
>This is the 2nd call for papers I am co-organizing at the University of
>Helsinki with my fellow archeologists: “Down by the water:
>Interdisciplinary symposium on the role of water transit points in past
>societies”, 5-7 Nov 2019. Note that the deadline has been extended to 31
>May 2019.
>https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/
>
>This is planned as a truly interdisciplinary conference where one of the
>four sessions will be devoted to linguistic perspectives on waterways. We
>welcome papers presenting language facts intrinsically connected to
>waterways, such as language dispersal through waterways, language contact
>occurring at water crossing points, multilingual areas located along
>rivers, etc. The linguistic plenary talk will be delivered by Rik van Gijn,
>who combines qualitative and quantitative methods to investigate the
>interconnection between river systems and languages of South America.
>Together with his colleagues at the University of Zurich, he has proposed
>an approach to identify probable pathways of language diffusion along the
>Amazon River network, combining ideas from route planning (i.e. looking for
>possible routes of linguistic diffusion along the river network) and route
>inference (i.e. testing the possible routes against evidence from
>linguistic data).
>
>It would be interesting to see how the relevance of waterways to
>communities can shape languages they speak, and to present this connection
>to colleagues from other disciplines. Likewise, the hope is that linguists
>can benefit from a different perspective on the same object that historians
>and archeologists will share during this conference. See a detailed call
>for papers below.
>
>With best regards,
>Olesya
>
>****
>*Down by the water: Interdisciplinary symposium on the role of water
>transit points in past societies*
>
>*Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies, Helsinki, 6-8 November, 2019*
>https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/
>
>Waterways have been key factors in the development of societies from
>prehistoric times to nowadays, particularly due to their role as vectors
>for cultural interactions, material exchange, and transmission of
>knowledge. The fluidity of these highways of transport and communications
>is tightly linked to the presence of transit points: spaces with unique
>geographical characteristics that acted as nodal points between different
>communities. Transit points are thus defined as places of intense social
>contacts, putting objects of physical geography into the domain of social
>sciences and humanities.
>
>The subject is challenging, as many activities that happen in the aquatic
>spaces seldom leave substantial archaeological traces behind due to the
>nature of the activities (for example, some actions take place on board
>vessels), or the inaccessibility of the archaeological remains (for
>example, submerged or silted spaces). In some instances, the location might
>have been obscured by lack of remains, but the impact of those interactions
>is visible in other ways, such as nautical technology or language exchanges.
>
>Rivers are particularly relevant to language exchanges, as they have been
>crucial in defining language contact areas in such diverse parts of the
>world as Amazonia, Northern Europe, and Siberia, among others: in some
>cases, riverside locations are known to be areas of linguistic similarity
>resulting from long-term exchange relations between speakers of unrelated
>languages or from a population spread along a river path. In other areas,
>riverside locations can be areas of the most linguistic diversity if they
>serve as a marketplace to which temporarily gather representatives of the
>otherwise geographically distant language communities.
>
>The complex nature of human exchanges in these kinds of locations have
>resulted in the need to develop legal frameworks to mediate interactions,
>many of which reflect the multiculturality and multi-legality of the actors
>involved. Taking all this into account, an interdisciplinary perspective
>with a focus on human-environment interactions is necessary. This sort of
>approach can help set forth more nuanced theories regarding the relation
>between social systems and their environment, using data obtained through
>different disciplines such as iconography, law, computer modelling,
>ethnography, geography, history, linguistics, environmental sciences, and
>so on.
>
>By engaging with interdisciplinary theoretical approaches like the maritime
>cultural landscape, boat biographies, or language contact studies,
>researchers will be able to recognize the impact of maritime or fluvial
>cultures onto their social framework and bring a balance to the narratives
>of the past in regions with amphibious landscapes.
>
>This conference seeks to challenge the interaction between models and
>particular case studies. To this aim, we would like to invite proposals
>from scholars conducting research in different fields whose focus is human
>activities in rivers, sea-river, and coastal transit points with a broad
>geographic and chronological perspective. With this interdisciplinary
>approach, we expect to demonstrate what can be achieved by changing the
>research paradigm to one that fully embraces the nuances of the aquatic
>world, and specially the intricate connection between water spaces and
>humans.
>
>Plenary speakers:
>Himanshu Prabha Ray (Jawaharlal Nehru University),
>Christoph Schäfer (University of Trier),
>Rik Van Gijn (University of Zurich),
>Crystal El Safadi (University of Southampton)
>
>Suggested topics:
>
>   - Port and harbour communities
>   - Trade and economics at transit points
>   - Human-environment interactions along waterways
>   - Nautical technology and design: exchanges and group identity
>   - Linguistic dispersal through waterways
>   - Language contact and waterways
>   - Multilingualism along major rivers
>
>Prospective presenters are requested to submit an abstract in a .docx file
>containing:
>
>   - Title of the presentation
>   - Name of the presenter
>   - Email and affiliation
>   - Abstract of no more than 250 words.
>   - Keywords
>
>
>Submission deadline: 30th of April 2019
>Submissions should be made to: downbythewater68 at gmail.com
>Further inquiries should be made to: Veronica Walker Vadillo at
>veronica.walker at helsinki.fi
>
>Organising committee:
>Elisabeth Holmqvist-Sipilä, HCAS
>Olesya Khanina, HCAS/ Institute of Linguistics, Russian Academy of Sciences
>Emilia Mataix Ferrandiz, HCAS
>Veronica Walker Vadillo, HCAS
>
>
>-- 
>Olesya Khanina
>Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies & Institute of Linguistics RAS
>http://iling-ran.ru/main/scholars/khanina
>http://circumpolar.iling-ran.ru/
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>From: Olesya Khanina <olesya.khanina at gmail.com>
>To: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
>Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] 2nd CfP: Down by river (Helsinki, 5-7 Nov
>	2019), deadline extended to 31 May 2019
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>I am sorry, there has been a mistake in my recent email! The conference
>takes place 6-8 November 2019, not 5-7 November!
>
>ср, 24 апр. 2019 г. в 15:29, Olesya Khanina <olesya.khanina at gmail.com>:
>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> This is the 2nd call for papers I am co-organizing at the University of
>> Helsinki with my fellow archeologists: “Down by the water:
>> Interdisciplinary symposium on the role of water transit points in past
>> societies”, 5-7 Nov 2019. Note that the deadline has been extended to 31
>> May 2019.
>> https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/
>>
>> This is planned as a truly interdisciplinary conference where one of the
>> four sessions will be devoted to linguistic perspectives on waterways. We
>> welcome papers presenting language facts intrinsically connected to
>> waterways, such as language dispersal through waterways, language contact
>> occurring at water crossing points, multilingual areas located along
>> rivers, etc. The linguistic plenary talk will be delivered by Rik van Gijn,
>> who combines qualitative and quantitative methods to investigate the
>> interconnection between river systems and languages of South America.
>> Together with his colleagues at the University of Zurich, he has proposed
>> an approach to identify probable pathways of language diffusion along the
>> Amazon River network, combining ideas from route planning (i.e. looking for
>> possible routes of linguistic diffusion along the river network) and route
>> inference (i.e. testing the possible routes against evidence from
>> linguistic data).
>>
>> It would be interesting to see how the relevance of waterways to
>> communities can shape languages they speak, and to present this connection
>> to colleagues from other disciplines. Likewise, the hope is that linguists
>> can benefit from a different perspective on the same object that historians
>> and archeologists will share during this conference. See a detailed call
>> for papers below.
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Olesya
>>
>> ****
>> *Down by the water: Interdisciplinary symposium on the role of water
>> transit points in past societies*
>>
>> *Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies, Helsinki, 6-8 November, 2019*
>> https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/
>>
>> Waterways have been key factors in the development of societies from
>> prehistoric times to nowadays, particularly due to their role as vectors
>> for cultural interactions, material exchange, and transmission of
>> knowledge. The fluidity of these highways of transport and communications
>> is tightly linked to the presence of transit points: spaces with unique
>> geographical characteristics that acted as nodal points between different
>> communities. Transit points are thus defined as places of intense social
>> contacts, putting objects of physical geography into the domain of social
>> sciences and humanities.
>>
>> The subject is challenging, as many activities that happen in the aquatic
>> spaces seldom leave substantial archaeological traces behind due to the
>> nature of the activities (for example, some actions take place on board
>> vessels), or the inaccessibility of the archaeological remains (for
>> example, submerged or silted spaces). In some instances, the location might
>> have been obscured by lack of remains, but the impact of those interactions
>> is visible in other ways, such as nautical technology or language
>> exchanges.
>>
>> Rivers are particularly relevant to language exchanges, as they have been
>> crucial in defining language contact areas in such diverse parts of the
>> world as Amazonia, Northern Europe, and Siberia, among others: in some
>> cases, riverside locations are known to be areas of linguistic similarity
>> resulting from long-term exchange relations between speakers of unrelated
>> languages or from a population spread along a river path. In other areas,
>> riverside locations can be areas of the most linguistic diversity if they
>> serve as a marketplace to which temporarily gather representatives of the
>> otherwise geographically distant language communities.
>>
>> The complex nature of human exchanges in these kinds of locations have
>> resulted in the need to develop legal frameworks to mediate interactions,
>> many of which reflect the multiculturality and multi-legality of the actors
>> involved. Taking all this into account, an interdisciplinary perspective
>> with a focus on human-environment interactions is necessary. This sort of
>> approach can help set forth more nuanced theories regarding the relation
>> between social systems and their environment, using data obtained through
>> different disciplines such as iconography, law, computer modelling,
>> ethnography, geography, history, linguistics, environmental sciences, and
>> so on.
>>
>> By engaging with interdisciplinary theoretical approaches like the maritime
>> cultural landscape, boat biographies, or language contact studies,
>> researchers will be able to recognize the impact of maritime or fluvial
>> cultures onto their social framework and bring a balance to the narratives
>> of the past in regions with amphibious landscapes.
>>
>> This conference seeks to challenge the interaction between models and
>> particular case studies. To this aim, we would like to invite proposals
>> from scholars conducting research in different fields whose focus is human
>> activities in rivers, sea-river, and coastal transit points with a broad
>> geographic and chronological perspective. With this interdisciplinary
>> approach, we expect to demonstrate what can be achieved by changing the
>> research paradigm to one that fully embraces the nuances of the aquatic
>> world, and specially the intricate connection between water spaces and
>> humans.
>>
>> Plenary speakers:
>> Himanshu Prabha Ray (Jawaharlal Nehru University),
>> Christoph Schäfer (University of Trier),
>> Rik Van Gijn (University of Zurich),
>> Crystal El Safadi (University of Southampton)
>>
>> Suggested topics:
>>
>>    - Port and harbour communities
>>    - Trade and economics at transit points
>>    - Human-environment interactions along waterways
>>    - Nautical technology and design: exchanges and group identity
>>    - Linguistic dispersal through waterways
>>    - Language contact and waterways
>>    - Multilingualism along major rivers
>>
>> Prospective presenters are requested to submit an abstract in a .docx file
>> containing:
>>
>>    - Title of the presentation
>>    - Name of the presenter
>>    - Email and affiliation
>>    - Abstract of no more than 250 words.
>>    - Keywords
>>
>>
>> Submission deadline: 30th of April 2019
>> Submissions should be made to: downbythewater68 at gmail.com
>> Further inquiries should be made to: Veronica Walker Vadillo at
>> veronica.walker at helsinki.fi
>>
>> Organising committee:
>> Elisabeth Holmqvist-Sipilä, HCAS
>> Olesya Khanina, HCAS/ Institute of Linguistics, Russian Academy of Sciences
>> Emilia Mataix Ferrandiz, HCAS
>> Veronica Walker Vadillo, HCAS
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olesya Khanina
>> Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies & Institute of Linguistics RAS
>> http://iling-ran.ru/main/scholars/khanina
>> http://circumpolar.iling-ran.ru/
>>
>
>
>-- 
>Olesya Khanina
>Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies & Institute of Linguistics RAS
>http://iling-ran.ru/main/scholars/khanina
>http://circumpolar.iling-ran.ru/
>
>*This year I am co-organising the following conferences:*
>*'Linguistic forum' - Moscow, 4-6 April 2019: *
>http://iling-ran.ru/main/conferences/2019_indigenous
>*'Typology of small-scale multilingualism' - Lyon, 15-17 April
>2019: https://ilcl.hse.ru/smallscale/ <https://ilcl.hse.ru/smallscale/>*
>
>*'Down by the water' - Helsinki, 6-8 November 2019:
>https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/
><https://blogs.helsinki.fi/downbythewater/>*
>*'Language contact in the circumpolar world' - Moscow, 25-27 October 2019*
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>From: "Denis CREISSELS" <denis.creissels at univ-lyon2.fr>
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>Dear all,
>
> 
>
>By ‘extended direct speech’, I mean constructions involving a main verb
>which is not a verb of saying and a subordinate clause which does not refer
>to a speech act, but in which first person pronouns or indexes in the
>subordinate clause behave exactly in the same way as in direct speech, in
>the sense that they do not refer to the speaker, but to the subject of the
>matrix clause. This pattern is regularly (although optionally) found in
>Jóola Fóoñi (aka Diola-Fogny, an Atlantic language of Senegal), in the
>complementation of ‘know’ and other cognitive verbs.
>
> 
>
>For example, in Jóola Fooñi, ‘The childi knows that hisi mother worked hard
>for himi’ is commonly expressed as literally ‘The child knows that my mother
>worked hard for me’. The obvious explanation is that such a sentence can be
>paraphrased as ‘The child knows (something he could express by saying:) my
>mother worked hard for me’. One must therefore consider the possibility
>that, cross-linguistically, similar sentences occur more or less
>sporadically in spontaneous speech with a special intonation, as a ‘figure
>of speech’ of the type termed ‘anacoluthon’ in classical rhetoric. What is
>special in the case of Jóola Fóoñi is that such a formulation is
>stylistically neutral, does not necessitate a special intonation, and is not
>deemed deviant by speakers.
>
> 
>
>I would be interested to know whether a similar routinization of ‘extended
>direct speech’ has been observed in other languages.
>
> 
>
>Best,
>
>Denis
>
> 
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