[Lingtyp] Mainland Northeast Asia (MNEA) as a linguistic area

[Guillaume Jacques]

Gyalrongic languages are of course in contact with both Sichuanese and
Standard Mandarin, but this contact, at least for Japhug, is post-1949. I
think that it is unlikely that this use of *ta *is calqued from Chinese,
especially since the range of meaning of this verb is not identical to that
of Chinese 放 (see the online Japhug-French-Chinese dictionary for
examples). However, I do not dispute that this possibility deserves to be
investigated in more detail.
As for Adi, contact with Mandarin in Arunachal Pradesh is probably very
limited.

GJ

Le sam. 28 mars 2020 à 13:03, <joo at shh.mpg.de> a écrit :

> Thanks to Guillaume and Mark for pointing that out. On the other hand, it
> seems to me that the two languages (Japhug and Abor) you mentioned are
> within or adjacent to Mandarin-speaking region (including Southwestern
> Mandarin), in common with the MNEA languages I mentioned. Could it be that
> this polysemy is caused by the contact between Mandarin and its neighboring
> languages?
>
> Ian
> On 28. Mar 2020, 20:38 +0900, Mark Post <mark.post at sydney.edu.au>, wrote:
>
> ...or indeed elsewhere in Trans-Himalayan; Adi më- (ë is schwa) has the
> senses 'put; place' and 'release; let go'.
> Mark
>
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> Guillaume Jacques <rgyalrongskad at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:32:05 PM
> *To:* Joo, Ian <joo at shh.mpg.de>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Lingtyp] Mainland Northeast Asia (MNEA) as a linguistic
> area
>
> The colexification of 'put' and 'release' is not restricted to this
> particular area; it is also found in at least some Gyalrong languages
> further south (Japhug *ta* 'put' can be used in the sense of 'release,
> let ... get away with it' ="放过"), and I would not be surprised if it is
> found in other languages of Western Sichuan.
>
> Guillaume
>
> Le sam. 28 mars 2020 à 10:39, Joo, Ian <joo at shh.mpg.de> a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> I am currently writing a paper proposing Mainland Northeast Asia (MNEA) as
> a linguistic area, and I would like to know if there are any previous
> studies that have analyzed this region as a linguistic area.
>
> The MNEA area I propose includes northern China, Mongolia, Korea, but not
> Japan, Sakhalin, and Russian Far East. One feature of this area, which I am
> currently working on with my colleagues, is that the languages spoken there
> colexify `to put’ and `to release’, as shown in the attached map.
>
>
>
> From Daejeon, South Korea,
>
> Ian
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