[Lingtyp] Looking for two terms

John Peterson jpeterson at isfas.uni-kiel.de
Tue Jan 30 14:04:22 UTC 2024



Dear list members,

My co-author and I are currently finishing up work on the case system of 
Standard Goan Konkani (Indo-Aryan, Indo-European) and have run into a 
terminological problem.

To keep it short, there are two cases in Konkani which derive from 
earlier case stacking with the inessive case followed by either the 
genitive or the ablative. However, from a synchronic perspective these 
must be considered two cases in their own right in the modern language, 
even though their origins from case stacking are still transparent.

With the genitive, this form (<= inessive + genitive) denotes an entity 
out of a possible group of similar entities, for example in the first 
example below, 'one coconut tree among those in 2002', i.e., 'among 
those which were planted in 2002' (my apologies in advance for the 
format!):

_atã        don    hɵjar        don-a=ntl-ɔ                              
     ek     maɖ_
now      two    thousand   two-OBL=INESS.GEN-M.SG    one   
coconut.tree.M

lag-lɵl-ɔ                                  na.
bear.fruit-PST.PERF-M.SG    NEG.PRS.3SG
'Now not one coconut tree among those [planted] in 2002 bore fruit.'

With the other form, from the inessive and a form similar to (and 
deriving from) the ablative (<= inessive + ablative), the semantics are 
'from within a place or group', as in the next example:

_                                                                        
                                                  __bhijovn_
payp-a=ntɵlyan               udɵk      soɖ-un               ekɵmek-ã=k   
                  bhij-ɵy-un
pipe-OBL=INESS.ABL  water     release-CVB      RECIP-OBL.PL=OBJ    
get.wet-CAUS-CVB

mɵj-e=n                     dhuɭvɵɖ                                      
         mɵnɵy-l-i.
fun-OBL=INST.SG   sprinkling.of.colors.during.Holi.F     
celebrate-PST-F.SG
'[The boys and girls] turned on (lit. 'released') the faucet (= 'the 
water from in the pipe'), got each other wet and had fun (= through fun) 
celebrated the throwing of colors of Holi.'

A search for similar cases in other languages has so far not turned up 
any results, and we have not yet found a good term of our own for these 
two cases, only the rather cumbersome "inessive genitive" and "inessive 
ablative" (or the equally unfortunate "genessive"/"ablessive"), so any 
suggestions from the list as to how to name these would be greatly 
appreciated.

Many thanks in advance!

Best,
John

-- 
John Peterson
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D-24118 Kiel
Germany

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