[Lingtyp] finiteness

Mon May 5 10:59:23 UTC 2025

Thanks to everyone who has answered my query so far for their helpful suggestions. I have had one more from Françoise Rose, who says she can't manage it to post on the Lingtyp list and asks me to do it for her in case people other than me are interested. Here it is:

Chamoreau, Claudine & Estrada-Fernández, Zarina (eds.). 2016. Finiteness and Nominalization (Typological Studies in Language). Vol. 113. Amsterdam: John Benjamins Publishing Company. (doi:10.1075/tsl.113 [doi.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doi.org/10.1075/tsl.113__;!!PDiH4ENfjr2_Jw!GFs0oCVWn7MnCwr4G1Isek3H-ntiwTfRoC2dkN2VD059X4Y2NA35OqkEBqVbuRdNBa7-b0_BebVzUN8Sru8hBH0Ji3OrDHCD6dB1PjUpEg$>) (http://www.jbe-platform.com/content/books/9789027267023 [jbe-platform.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jbe-platform.com/content/books/9789027267023__;!!PDiH4ENfjr2_Jw!GFs0oCVWn7MnCwr4G1Isek3H-ntiwTfRoC2dkN2VD059X4Y2NA35OqkEBqVbuRdNBa7-b0_BebVzUN8Sru8hBH0Ji3OrDHCD6dCh3MuUSA$>)

Looks to be very relevant.
Best
Nigel

Professor Nigel Vincent, FBA MAE
Professor Emeritus of General & Romance Linguistics
The University of Manchester

Linguistics & English Language
School of Arts, Languages and Cultures
The University of Manchester

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Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] finiteness

Dear Nigel, Christian and all,

I assume that Christian is referring to one or both of two papers of mine from the 1970’s: “On Sloppy Identity [drive.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBLUKpvo8CC0o14LMCUDubqz5ex2o1jJ/view?usp=sharing__;!!PDiH4ENfjr2_Jw!ASzu9_SseKlDubdVx8GJo0LlDmLtf1YDEHRj0P6joc3H4sE11M1MzV7kpRs-_CpL9LiGSVTkeqnF_Aoq1ULjihSPfh2s_YK_XTchvw$>” and “How to open a sentence: Abstraction in natural language [drive.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TlK3XXtkbBLtXHwUudlLqFA0SGUbftEk/view?usp=sharing__;!!PDiH4ENfjr2_Jw!ASzu9_SseKlDubdVx8GJo0LlDmLtf1YDEHRj0P6joc3H4sE11M1MzV7kpRs-_CpL9LiGSVTkeqnF_Aoq1ULjihSPfh2s_YJ3cXuW7Q$>”.  P     lease tell me if there are any problems with the links.

Best,

Östen

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Dear Nigel,

allow me to remind you of two concepts which, to my mind, have proved fruitful both in the descriptive analysis and the typology of non-finite constructions:

  1.  the open proposition/clause
  2.  the oriented proposition/clause.

The webpage
https://www.christianlehmann.eu/ling/lg_system/func_domains/nexion/nexion_index.php?open=open_proposition [christianlehmann.eu]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.christianlehmann.eu/ling/lg_system/func_domains/nexion/nexion_index.php?open=open_proposition__;!!PDiH4ENfjr2_Jw!ASzu9_SseKlDubdVx8GJo0LlDmLtf1YDEHRj0P6joc3H4sE11M1MzV7kpRs-_CpL9LiGSVTkeqnF_Aoq1ULjihSPfh2s_YJYJ8sjHg$>
is on #1 and takes you to #2.

Unless I am mistaken, concept #1 was introduced into linguistics by Östen Dahl. Both concepts have been used, i.a., by Nikolaus Himmelmann in his analysis of the Philippine voice system (http://publikationen.ub.uni-frankfurt.de/files/24331/AP15NF-Himmelmann(1991).pdf) [publikationen.ub.uni-frankfurt.de]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://publikationen.ub.uni-frankfurt.de/files/24331/AP15NF-Himmelmann(1991).pdf)__;!!PDiH4ENfjr2_Jw!ASzu9_SseKlDubdVx8GJo0LlDmLtf1YDEHRj0P6joc3H4sE11M1MzV7kpRs-_CpL9LiGSVTkeqnF_Aoq1ULjihSPfh2s_YIuQauG-w$>.

Best,
Christian

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