"phute'okicu" and other new animals

[Clive Bloomfield]

Apologies to any Greek scholars here for that unaspirated masculine  
sing. definite article & for those other two initial vowels which  
ought to have been aspirated :
The diacritics on my Polytonic Greek font are not only vanishingly  
microscopic, and thus difficult to distinguish, (even when  
magnified), but the Greek 'spiritus asper' ( 'he daseia prosoidia')  
or so called "rough breathing" appears to have been completely  
omitted by the makers. Nevertheless, I have indicated the aspirates  
in my transliterations.

Just for the record.

Clive.


On 26/01/2008, at 11:06 AM, Clive Bloomfield wrote:

> The Hellenistic Greek version of the OT, the Septuagint (LXX), at  
> Genesis 1:21, reads :
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> Καὶ ἐποίησεν ὀ Θεὸς τὰ κήτη τὰ  
> μεγάλα...

> [Kai epoiesen ho Theos ta kete ta megala..."And God created the  
> great sea-monsters/whales..."] ,
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> Finally, in the other Biblical passage for which I have the Dakota  
> translation, Matthew 12:40, the following are original texts for  
> comparison :
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> "Anpetu yamni qa hanyetu yamni hehanyan Jonas hogan tanka tezi kin  
> ohna un qon he iyecen..."
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> "For as Jonah was three days & three nights in the whale's  
> belly..." [KJV, 1611];
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> ὦσπερ γὰρ ἦν Ἰωνᾶς ἐν τῇ κοιλίᾳ  
> τοῦ κήτους τρεῖς ἠμέρας καὶ τρεῖς  
> νύκτας...

> .[hosper gar en Ionas en tei koiliai tou ketous treis hemeras kai  
> treis nyktas...[Above transliterated];

>        [Greek NT, echoing the exact words used in the LXX Book of  
> Jonas at 2:1; 2:2 ];
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> On 25/01/2008, at 5:16 AM, Alfred W. Tüting wrote:
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>> (for some reason, this didn't get through)
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>> Let me add this:
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>> this is the original text that actually speaks of a "huge fish" or  
>> "dag gadol"  דָּג גָּדוֹל
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>> וַיְמַן יְהוָה דָּג גָּדוֹל,  
>> לִבְלֹעַ אֶת-יוֹנָה
>> And the LORD prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah
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>> Alfred
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>> Am 24.01.2008 um 17:06 schrieb Alfred W. Tüting:
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>>> Consulting my bookshelf, here are my two cents:
>>> "whale" in modern Ivrith still is "lifyathan" (lamed - vav - yud  
>>> - thet - nun)
>>> לויתן
>>> Searching my dictionary for Biblical Hebrew for it yielded the  
>>> very same word (same, yet vocalized, spelling), translated by  
>>> "Riesentier Leviathan, Schlange, Krokodil".
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>>> I'll be trying to retrieve the Hebrew original of that story  
>>> telling of Jona in the whale/fish.
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>>> Alfred
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>>> Am 24.01.2008 um 05:50 schrieb Rankin, Robert L:
>>>> Not being well versed in matters theological, I may be wrong,  
>>>> but I think 'great fish' more closely mirrors the original  
>>>> Hebrew text.  I'll have to check into the education of the  
>>>> translator to see if this is an accident or a superior translation.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
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>>>>> As a matter of interest, in the OT story of Jonas & the Whale,  
>>>>> Buechel's Bible History Stories (1924) merely uses (p.127) :  
>>>>> "HOGAN TANKA" [= big fish] for the famous 'whale'.
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