Sign Writting

[Charles Butler]

So, I type the sentence in approximate ASL Gloss so that it comes out in the right word order.
   
  CAT CHAIR SIT ON.
   
  I don't depend on the translation program doing the job for me.  It is a word-for-word translation program, not an idiomatic translation program.  I have a number of objects that can appear in one order in ASL and another in English.  So I have to do a little work and think in ASL before I try to translate. I'd do the same in Portuguese, French, or Spanish.  It's the same process.  
   
  Example: C'est la vie.  Translated to be "such is life".  C'est is "SUCH IS" la vie is LIFE.  It's not word for word, but concept for concept.
   
  Charles Butler
  

Gagnon et Thibeault <atg at videotron.ca> wrote:
  Hi Stuart and everyone,

I agree with you 100%. For example, I type an English sentence : A cat 
sits on a chair. I click on Translate button. I read a SignWriting 
sentence : CAT SIT ON CHAIR. This ASL sentence is agrammatical. For the 
ASL sentence, CHAIR CAT CL-V : SIT-ON-CHAIR. An English ssentence is 
diffrent from the ASL sentence.

Hand waving

André
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart Thiessen" 
To: "SignWriting List" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] Re: Sign Writting


>I think it is important to clarify that Translate does not actually 
>translate anything. It just provides a word-for-word substitution between 
>the spoken language word and the sign language sign. This causes me to 
>wonder if it might be better not to call that function "Translate"? People 
>who are not aware of this distinction might think that using the translate 
>feature actually translates between spoken languages and sign languages.
>
> I'm not sure what a better replacement would be. I will think on that.
>
> Stuart
>
> On 5 Dec 2007, at 12:19 , Valerie Sutton wrote:
>
>>> I hope you can help me.
>>> I am looking for a translator that I can type an
>>> english sentence and have it provide the signwritting
>>> translation with words under each sign.
>>>
>>> any suggestions
>>
>> --------
>>
>> Yes of course.
>>
>> Go to:
>>
>> SignPuddle Online
>> http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle
>>
>> Click on the flag of the country sign language you want to use...
>>
>> One caution...only some countries have large dictionaries to translate 
>> from, so if you choose some countries with nothing in their dictionaries 
>> yet, that would not help you much!
>>
>> So if you choose the US or Flanders or French-Swiss or Germany for 
>> example, then you have something to translate from...
>>
>> Once the dictionary for your country is open, click on the Translate 
>> Button on the side of the screen...
>>
>> Type the words you want to translate and push the Translate Button...
>>
>> but you are not done yet...
>>
>> scroll down and choose the variations of possible signs for each 
>> word...there are many signs that can mean the same word, as with all 
>> languages...so if you know sign language you can choose the best signs 
>> for the words you are trying to translate...
>>
>> Then press the Update button and your sentence will be written in 
>> SignWriting...
>>
>> There is also video instruction if you wish to watch how to do this:
>>
>> Go to:
>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/help/SignPuddle15VideoUS/
>>
>> and click on Video 12
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
>>
>>
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