ASL Dictionary & the Translate feature

Sat May 17 01:55:53 UTC 2008

For a story, for myself, I'd try to get the best possible example of a sign from that signer.  You wouldn't publish a movie without out-takes, consider it a movie that has been perfected.

Charles

MARIA AZZOPARDI <maria.azzopardi at um.edu.mt> wrote: Hi K.J Boal,

Just to say well done for all the hard work you are putting into this. I
don't know ASL (from Europe here) however I know SignWriting so I could
read your texts. With the help of translations I could pick up a few ASL
signs :)

I happened to carry out a similar task for work on my two thesis, i.e
transcibing a signer signing a story. At the time I didn't use SignPuddle,
because I don't think it was available. I've just started using it now for
our Bible project.

One question, are you transcribing phonetically? I.e. if your signer signs
slips, hestitates or uses gestures, do you include these in your
transciptions, or do you filter such things? I had included everything,
mainly because it was a linguistic study so I wanted as much detail as
possible. However if yours is for book form then perhaps you do things a
little differently?

thanks,
Maria

> SignWriting List
> May 14, 2008
>
> K.J. Boal from Canada wrote:
>> I'm having a little trouble: The existing signs in SignPuddle for
>> some of the signs I need for Snow White aren't written the way
>> Darline signed them (e.g. "Snow" starts with a shoulder touch before
>> coming down with the finger wiggle).  I thought it would be easiest
>> to save the signs the way I want them for the book into the ASL
>> Dictionary, so I could access them with the Translate feature
>> instead of changing the existing signs every time - I'm sure you can
>> imagine why! ;-)  Anyway, I've saved them in SignPuddle but they
>> still don't show up as Translate options.  I'm guessing that's
>> because I haven't put in a SignSpelling.  How do I put in a
>> SignSpelling so I can get my signs to Translate? Thanks, KJ P.S. 12
>> pages up now . . . ;-)
>
> -----
>
>
> Hello Kelly Jo!
> This is so exciting to realize that you have already written 12 pages
> of SNOW WHITE....
>
> For those on the SignWriting List, who would like to follow Kelly Jo's
> writing...Kelly Jo is transcribing a video of Darline Clark-Gunsauls
> signing the story of Snow White in ASL...You can read the documents,
> which are being posted page by page on the ASL Literature Puddle:
>
> ASL Literature Puddle
> http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/index.php?ui=1&sgn=5
>
> Go there and search by words, for SNOW WHITE, and all the documents
> will appear.
>
> I have not posted the video of SNOW WHITE on the web yet, but if there
> is anyone here on the SignWriting List that wishes to follow Kelly
> Jo's transcription I will be happy to post the video on the web too...
>
> Please write back to the List to tell me if you want me to post the
> SNOW WHITE video...if you are interested in following the
> transcription of the video...
>
> Now...to answer your question, Kelly Jo. I went and looked at the sign
> for SNOW in the ASL Dictionary:
>
> ASL Dictionary Puddle
> http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/index.php?ui=1&sgn=4
>
> And I found out that the sign that you entered in the dictionary,
> Darline's style of signing SNOW, had been entered as a SignText
> document, rather than as an "individual sign". You saved it as a
> SignText document in the Dictionary... The Translate Feature can only
> search for signs that are entered as "individual signs"...it cannot
> search SignText documents yet...
>
> So this means that if you go back into the Dictionary...and click on
> the SignMaker Icon on the left of the screen to enter the sign as a
> new "individual sign", then the Translate Feature will find it...
>
> It has nothing to do with the SignSpellings, except that you would not
> be able to add a SignSpelling to a sign that was entered as a SignText
> document anyway...only "Individual signs" can be given SignSpellings ...
>
> So although your individual sign looks great, you will need to re-
> write it now by clicking on the SignMaker icon on the left of the
> screen...
>
> Thanks for your question -
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
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