[Sw-l] How to write signs in different locations?

Wed Aug 24 21:02:19 UTC 2022

SignWriting List

August 24, 2022

Hello Valerie, and all SignWriting List members!

Your guidance and confirmation of the examples used are very valuable, I
will complement it with the content of the video I am preparing. Again,
thank you so much for helping with our queries.🥰

Hugs!

Em ter., 23 de ago. de 2022 às 20:05, Jonathan Duncan <joyoduncan at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> I never new we could do that !!! Awesome
> On 8/20/2022 2:37 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>
> SignWriting List
> August 20, 2022
>
> HOW TO WRITE SIGNS IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS
>
> Video 1
> To write the LOCATION ABOVE THE WAIST, lengthen or expand the Torso. Put
> more space between the Shoulder Line and the Hip Line so you can place the
> sign above the waist.
>
> Please see attached:
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> On Aug 20, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG>
> wrote:
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> SignWriting List
> August 20, 2022
>
> Hello Rubens, Josenilson and all SignWriting List members!
>
> Introduction
>
> Thank you for these important questions about “How to write signs in
> different locations”. Thank you for this beautiful video showing the signs
> in LIBRAS. I hope all of you will visit YouTube to see the signs. I will
> try to write them from the video and answer the questions one by one, by
> Video Number. Please note that I have changed the subject of this thread to
> “How to write signs in different locations”: The next email will be my
> writing of Video 1, and so forth...
>
> https://youtu.be/koqJzgcbroo
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> On Aug 18, 2022, at 10:24 PM, Profo Rubens Almeida
> <rubens.escritadesinais at GMAIL.COM> <rubens.escritadesinais at GMAIL.COM>
>  wrote:
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> Hello Valerie, Josenilson and all SignWriting List members!
> The writing made by Valerie based on the video produced by Josenilson
> provoked doubts in the SW WhatsApp group in Brazil, because as the symbol
> (*) was not written to touch, I understand that there is ambiguity, as I
> could read the writing as the sign was in front of the body, in
> neutral space, or as there is facial expression marking of teeth movement,
> it could be read as the front of the face.
>   I also have some doubts about how to write locations, especially writing
> sign that is performed with facial expression.
> Below is some screenshots of the video I produced, I hope you understand
> the doubts.
> Thank you for all your support!
> Att,
> Rubens Almeida
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> Link:
>  https://youtu.be/koqJzgcbroo
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> Em dom., 14 de ago. de 2022 às 00:31, Josenilson da Silva Mendes
> <jsm88b at gmail.com> <jsm88b at gmail.com> escreveu:
>  Thank you very much!
> Your answer was reported to my Whatsapp's group.
>
> Josenilson Mendes
>
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> Em qui., 11 de ago. de 2022 às 15:24, Valerie Sutton
> <sutton at signwriting.org> <sutton at signwriting.org> escreveu:
> SignWriting List
> August 11, 2022
>
> Hello Josenilson and SignWriting List Members:
>
> Based on this video:
> https://youtube.com/shorts/Xd5YMCTlZfI?feature=share
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> I created a screen capture of the Position of Contact and wrote the sign
> based on SignSpelling Guideline 1: Always write the Position of Contact,
> and SignSpelling Guideline 2: The Position of Contact becomes the Center of
> the Sign with the Movement Symbols relating to the Center. Please see
> attached. I will write another email with more detailed explanation and
> links to the SignSpelling Guidelines later…. Thanks for the great question
> and feel free to comment - this is fun to be back in touch!
>
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> SignWriting List
> August 11, 2022
>
> Thank you, Josenilson, for this video link. It is perfect!
>
> https://youtube.com/shorts/Xd5YMCTlZfI?feature=share
>
> My answer is coming… Val ;-)
> _____________
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> On Aug 10, 2022, at 10:58 AM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes
> <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM> <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> https://youtube.com/shorts/Xd5YMCTlZfI?feature=share
> Josenilson Mendes
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> Em qua., 10 de ago. de 2022 às 14:42, Josenilson da Silva Mendes
> <jsm88b at gmail.com> <jsm88b at gmail.com> escreveu:
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> Em qua., 10 de ago. de 2022 02:11, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
> <sutton at signwriting.org> escreveu:
> SignWriting List
> August 9, 2022
>
> Very interesting.
>
> Can you attach a short video showing the sign? That will really help.
>
> You are correct that simple contact is quite different than actually
> grasping clothing or holding a belly. The Grasp Symbol was developed to
> show holding something. For example holding somebody else's hand in dance,
> or pinching your ear, or pinching your clothing. But if the hands are only
> touching the chest but not really holding anything then you are right that
> a contact star is all you need. Or maybe you do not need a contact symbol
> there at all.
>
> However I still feel the need to see the sign because I'm not quite sure
> what I'm reading. Are the two hands in front of the belly or torso? With
> the fingers intertwined with each other doing a movement 2 times in-between
> each other?
>
> Can the two hands be placed closer to each other directly in the Torso
> area between the Shoulder and Hip Lines?
>
> Val ;-)
>
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>
> Valerie Sutton
> sutton at signwiting.org
>
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> On Aug 9, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM>
> <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> Hi, Valerie and friends of SW-List!
>
> It's about the symbol + (grasp contact). Some people say it is used to
> indicate permanent contact. I disagree. For example:
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> Mapinguari (indigenous legend)
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> For me the + symbol should be replaced by *, because the hands don't hold
> the belly,they just stay in contact with it.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Josenilson Mendes
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> _____________
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> On Aug 9, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM>
> <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi, Valerie and friends of SW-List!
>
> It's about the symbol + (grasp contact). Some people say it is used to
> indicate permanent contact. I disagree. For example:
>
>
>
>
> Mapinguari (indigenous legend)
>
> For me the + symbol should be replaced by *, because the hands don't hold
> the belly,they just stay in contact with it.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Josenilson Mendes
>
>
> Em qua., 10 de ago. de 2022 às 00:23, Valerie Sutton
> <sutton at signwriting.org> <sutton at signwriting.org> escreveu:
> SignWriting List
> August 9, 2022
>
> Hello Josenilson!
> It is great to read your message. Thank you for writing to the SignWriting
> List.
>
> Yes, for me at least, I follow Writing Guidelines when writing sign
> languages.
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> For example, these two rules or guidelines mean a lot to me personally. I
> follow these everytime I write:
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> SignSpelling Rule 1: Write the Position of Contact
> https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less063.html
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> SignSpelling Rule 2: Every Sign Has A Center
> https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less064.html
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> and it continues for many pages following on the web…
>
> These guidelines can also be found at the end of the
>
> Lessons in SignWriting Textbook
> https://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs2/sw0116-Lessons-SignWriting.pdf
>
> We had long discussions early in 2022 about guidelines for writing
> movement arrows and I had planned to write up a report about our decisions
> that we made together and then I got so busy I didn't get to it. Maybe now
> is the time to get back into more discussions?
>
> So what specific questions do you have?
>
>
> Val ;-)
>
> _______________
>
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> On Aug 9, 2022, at 7:30 PM, Josenilson da Silva Mendes <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM>
> <jsm88b at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi, SW-List!
> Here in Brazil, we are in a discussion about whether or not threre are
> rules for SW.
>
> This page https://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/ has spelling
> rules or not?
>
> Greetings
>
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> Josenilson Mendes
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