[Sw-l] Presentation of sign Search (German: Geb ärdensuche)

[Stephen Slevinski]

Hi Uta,

Thanks for sharing.  It's nice to see searching in SignWriting.

About the dominant vs recessive hand, this is not something that you can 
determine by symbol alone.
A few thoughts...

A sign in SignWriting is spelled using a two-part word of time and 
space: the temporal prefix and the spatial signbox.
* 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-08.html#name-two-part-word

Here are two signs that will have the same visual appearance because 
they have the same spatial signbox information.
However, the first sign has a temporal prefix while the second does not.
The major advantage of the temporal prefix is that it makes sorting 
possible.



If you use Valerie's rules for creating the temporal prefix, it will 
start with the dominant hand and then have the recessive hand.

For searching, you can search the temporal prefix or the spatial signbox.
* 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-08.html#name-query-language

Consider these query strings.


Query strings 1 and 2 search the spatial signbox.
The "fr" is used to specify any fill and any rotation respectively.

Query string 3 and 4 search the temporal prefix.
Searching the temporal prefix is indicated by starting with "A" and end 
with "T"
The "R" indicates a range and is followed by two symbols.

So, if you use the temporal prefix, you can use a query string like 3 to 
find the signs that specify the dominant hand.

You can use a query string like 4 to find the signs with any dominant 
hand, but a specific recessive hand.

This would only work with starting handshapes.

Regards,
-Steve



On 1/26/22 11:00 AM, Uta Meißner wrote:
> Hello dear signwriters,
>
> I would like to explain to you how sign search works in sign2mint.
>
> https://sign2mint.de/search/gebaerdensuche
>
> If you know a sign, but not
>
> If you know a sign but you don't know its translation or you don't 
> know the meaning of the sign and you want a translation for it.
>
>  There are 4 groups:
>
>  1. handshape
>  2. 2-hand
>  3. contact
>  4. movement
>
>
> handshape:
> There are 30 main handshapes (phonem, i dont know, whether the word 
> "phonem" is used). We have phonems and allophons and fingerspellings. 
> Allophones are handshapes that are similar to phonemes or written 
> differently, allophones are minimal deviations from phonemes.
>
> There is a table with phonem, allophon and fingerspellings.
> https://sign2mint.de/page/gebaerdensuchinformation
>
> If, you choose a phonem, so it looks for this phonem and 
> its allophons and fingerspellings. Independent of hand position.
>
> 2-hand:
> there are 5 ways in which the left hand moves compared to the right hand.
> - parallel
> - symmetrical
> - alternating
> - resting
> - performing together
>
> I would very much like to add that it is only a hand gesture, but 
> there is no symbol for it, so this selection is not available.
>
> contact:
> There are 4 how-contact:
> - simple contact
> - wipe (loose) contact
> - rub (continuous) contact
> - grap contact
> There are 4 where-contact:
> - head
> - neck
> - breast
> - arm
>
> I would very much like to add hand contact, but we have no idea, which 
> symbol. We use arm, breast or neck only, if there is contact. And head 
> with contact symbol like ")" in the head.
>
> movement:
> There are 9 movements.
> - straight
> - wave
> - angular
> - circle
> - spirale
> - arm rotation
> - hand movement
> - finger movement
>
> The more symbols you select, the more accurate the result will be.
> There is no finer selection. We will see if we need it.
> I would like to distinguish in dominant and recessive hand, that is 
> not possible with signwriting. Or is it?
>
> sign2mint-Team
> Uta
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