[Sw-l] Revision 09 for draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting

[Uta Meißner]

Hi all,

I have a wish for further enlargement: 🙂 🙂

I think it's great that there are symbols the dynamics of the two hands. At
first I thought why more symbols. They don't bring more information. But
now, I don't look so closely at where the arrowheads are. No, this magic
")" is a very big help.

I am interested in the story of the introduction of dynamic-symbols for
2-hand gestures. 🙂

And why s is not a symbol for ressesive hand, which is one's rests (don't
move).

I need this. and this Symbol should be a little point. this should remember
on a nail. 🙂 Very simple.

What do you think?
and you, Adam, the inventor of null-Symbol 🙂

Best regards
Uta




Uta Meißner <uta.hielscher at gmail.com> schrieb am So., 30. Jan. 2022, 18:12:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> A question of understanding:
>
> A maximum of 2 hand shapes may be entered per character, so that there is
> one dominant and one rezessiv hand.
>
> When writing a sign script, I have to make sure that the dominant hand is
> entered first, then the recessive hand. Only by the order alone hands are
> recognized as either dominant or recessive hand. Correct?
>
> Sometimes you have to enter end-hand shape, because otherwise it is not
> clear what the end-hand shape looks like.
>
> I.e. when writing, you always have to consciously enter the zero symbol if
> it is a one-hand gesture. The null symbol is not entered automatically,
> right?
>
> The fact that there is a zero symbol is definitely great for the sign
> search.
> 🙂
>
> But I need your creative minds on how to incorporate the zero symbol into
> the sign search. Normally, a selected symbol is always entered in the
> search field. Only that there is no picture for it, you can not click on it
> and see the feedback in the search field. 🙈
>
> Sign2mint.de has a toggle to choose between Iswa and drawing. For drawing,
> it is easy, a new image can be created with just one hand.
>
> Best regards!
> Uta
>
>
>
> Stephen Slevinski <slevin at signpuddle.net> schrieb am So., 30. Jan. 2022,
> 17:26:
>
>> Hi SignWriting List,
>>
>> Today I posted a new revision of the internet draft:
>> draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting.
>> It includes two changes.
>>
>> First, I've removed part of the styling string for individual symbol
>> zoom and offset.
>> When I first added this feature, I thought it was a good idea.
>> However, this feature creates problems and complicates simple processing.
>> Last month I finally realized why it was such a problem.
>> I couldn't find any workable solutions, so I decided to remove it.
>> I will be updating the available software packages in the near future.
>> One step back, two steps forward.
>>
>> Second, I've added a proposal for a new "null symbol".
>> This was inspired by discussions with Adam Frost and his ideas about
>> sorting.
>> Talking with Val, this is a long standing issue.
>> I'm still thinking through the issue, but I think this is a good fix.
>> You can read more about it here:
>>
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-09.html#name-proposed-null-symbol
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Steve
>>
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